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DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES

APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1989

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin

LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida LOUIS STOKES, Ohio

JACK F. KEMP, New York TOM BEVILL, Alabama

RALPH REGULA, Ohio BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania

MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts

BILL GREEN, New York CHARLES WILSON, Texas

JERRY LEWIS, California LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington

HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky MATTHEW F. McHUGH, New York

JOE SKEEN, New Mexico WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida

FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota

BILL LOWERY, California JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIN WEBER, Minnesota
VIC FAZIO, California

TOM DELAY, Texas
W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina JIM KOLBE, Arizona
LES AUCOIN, Oregon
DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii
WES WATKINS, Oklahoma
WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania
BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland
BOB CARR, Michigan
ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York
RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas
ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
LINDSAY THOMAS, Georgia

FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN, Clerk and Staff Director

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DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1989

TUESDAY, MARCH 1, 1988.

DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

FISCAL YEAR 1989 BUDGET REQUEST

WITNESSES HON. WILLIAM J. BENNETT, SECRETARY LINUS WRIGHT, UNDER SECRETARY BRICE M. CARNES, DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, BUDGET, AND EVALUATION

CHAIRMAN'S INTRODUCTORY REMARKS Mr. NATCHER. At this time, we take up the budget request for the Department of Education for the fiscal year 1989. We have before the committee the Secretary of Education, Mr. Bennett.

Mr. Bennett, it is a distinct privilege and honor to have you appear back before our committee. As we said to you the first year that you appeared, we wanted you to be a good Secretary of Education and we said that as long as you are for education, you are at the right place.

Mr. Secretary, the budget request as you well remember that was submitted to our subcommittee last year for education was just a little over $14,000,000,000.

FISCAL YEAR 1989 BUDGET REQUEST The budget that has been submitted to our subcommittee and to the Congress for fiscal year 1989 for education for the fiscal year 1989 is $21,097,731,000. That is a considerable increase over the amount submitted last year.

As you will recall, we ended up in the Continuing Resolution last year. We passed our bill in the House on August 5 with a total of $20,178,000,000. Now, the $21,097,731,000 that you and your Department have submitted for the fiscal year 1989 does not include Indian education. If that were added, of course, that amount would go up.

MANAGING THE BILL ON THE HOUSE FLOOR Mr. Secretary, I call those figures to your attention, figures that you are well acquainted with, and I want you to know that when Mr. Conte and Mr. Pursell and Mr. Obey and all the rest of the members of this subcommittee take this bill to the Floor, we need all the help we can get. The House helps us.

You know, one year, Mr. Secretary, we passed this bill in the House in an hour and 53 minutes, and we are right proud of that. I say to you, frankly, everyone helps us. This is a bill that should go through the House in one hour. All appropriations for health and education are appropriations that mean a whole lot to the people in this country, and you know better than I do when you take care of the health of your people and educate your children, you then remain the strongest country in the world.

So, we are right proud of it on this subcommittee. You know, Mr. Conte and I, when we take this bill to the Floor with the other members of the subcommittee, they walk up the aisle and they come by and they say, Mr. Conte, is everything in this bill that is supposed to be in here? You told them, yes; I would do the same thing. Mr. Conte, as you well know, they all help us and we appreciate it.

Mr. Secretary, it is a distinct honor and privilege to have you back with us, and we will be glad to hear from you. Tell us who you have with you at the table.

INTRODUCTION OF WITNESSES Secretary BENNETT. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, gentlemen.

It is a pleasure to be back with you this morning, Mr. Natcher. Let me introduce my colleagues: Linus Wright, to my right, is the new Under Secretary of the Department of Education and former Superintendent of the Dallas Independent School District. We are happy to have Linus with us.

Bruce Carnes, whom you know, is Deputy Under Secretary in the Office of Planning, Budget, and Evaluation.

You have a statement of mine, Mr. Natcher, that I submitted for the record. Let me just give you some of the highlights in a couple of minutes, in the interest of time.

FISCAL YEAR 1989 BUDGET REQUEST As usual, we are pleased to appear before you to discuss the 1989 budget for the Department. We are requesting, as you pointed out, $21,200,000,000, an increase of $851,000,000 over the 1988 appropriation

UNDERSCORING PRINCIPLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY As you pointed out, our budget for 1989 does spend more and we do request more, a good deal more than we requested last year. But I think more important, it spends better. Last year, we proposed to the Congress that the principle of accountability be applied to Chapter 1, the largest Federal elementary and secondary education programs, and to the programs of the Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act.

The Congress is moving to adopt these important concepts. This year, we want to continue and expand efforts to foster accountabil

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