provided within the building, so that the loss of over 1,600 spaces caused by the center leg coupled with an employee population of 6,700 persons in the Labor Building will have a serious effect on the area as a result of this one particular facility.

Senator DOMINICK. Now, Mr. Heath, how can you put a statement like that in? You have already said in here that you don't have any idea what they are going to put in in the way of parking, so how do you know it is going to cause a serious disruption?

Mr. HEATH. Well, by conversations with persons in GSA.

Senator DOMINICK. Can't you get them to put more in, then?

Mr. HEATH. They seriously doubt that they will be able to get a 1-to-10 ratio in that particular building, because of height limitations on the building itself, which will rest over the top of the freeway. And if they put in a 1-in-10 ratio, this is entirely inadequate to serve the needs of the building; and to my knowledge the GSA has never put in over a 1-in-10 ratio.

Senator DOMINICK. Has anybody talked to the GSA on this? Mr. HEATH. I have served on the Intergovernmental Committee that conducted GSA's study on employee parking problems.

Senator DOMINICK. Do they refuse to put in more than 1 in 10? Mr. HEATH. No, sir. They have, upon occasion, come to Congress with a request for more funds to put in a larger ratio of parking, and the committees have generally restricted them to a 1-and-10 basis. Senator DOMINICK. Can you cite an example of this?

Mr. HEATH. I can attempt to obtain those for you; yes, sir.
Senator DOMINICK. It would be helpful if you would.
(Information requested is as follows:)

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING AGENCY

Hon. PETER H. DOMINICK,
U.S. Senate,

Washington, D.C.

FEBRUARY 9, 1966.

DEAR SENATOR DOMINICK: During the recent hearings on S. 2769, a bill relating to the establishment of parking facilities in the District of Columbia, the question rose as to provision of parking spaces by the Federal Government for use of their employees.

It had been my understanding, from a number of contacts within the Federal Government over a period of years, that when funds are reduced for a Federal building that the provision of parking spaces is one of the first casualties.

As a substantiation of this statement, I am advised that the prospectus for Federal office buildings 10-A and 10-B proposed providing 636 offstreet parking spaces; however, due to a reduction in funds in the appropriation process, this number was reduced to 589 spaces, a reduction of 7.39 percent.

It is hoped this information meets your requirements in this case.
Sincerely yours,

W. D. HEATH, Executive Director.

Mr. HEATH. Probably in the more distant future, but it will surely occur one day, and provision will have to be made for it, is construction of the West Administration Building of the Municipal Center. At the present time, there are 808 off-street parking spaces being provided on a temporary basis. The loss of those 808 spaces coupled with the concentration of more employees in the area will bring conditions that will be very difficult to overcome without some means of providing, in advance, permanent off-street parking facilities. Senator DOMINICK. Now, once again, you don't say anything about what they are going to provide in the way of parking. Is there no

rule in the District which says that if a public building is going up, they are going to supply parking? And, if not, why not?

Mr. HEATH. There is no rule which says that a public building must supply parking.

Senator DOMINICK. Haven't the Commissioners ever taken this into consideration?

Mr. HEATH. The present plan for the West Administration Building area is in a state of flux, and it certainly has been the intent I have never discussed this with General Duke, but with previous engineer Commissioners, that every effort will be made to provide as much parking on the site as is practical. Now this again will be subject

Senator DOMINICK. You mean you don't have any zoning requirement that says that if you are going to have a public building which is going to have so many people coming into it, that they have got to supply parking along with the building?

Mr. HEATH. No, sir. As a matter of fact, the C-4 zoning area of the District of Columbia, which is the highest and best used within the District of Columbia, itself has no requirements for the provision of off-street parking in a building.

Senator DOMINICK. We did that in our smallest towns in Colorado 10 years ago.

Commissioner Duke. Sir, if I may interrupt right here, the provision of parking facilities in both the District of Columbia buildings and the Federal buildings, is, to the best of my knowledge, determined by the National Capital Planning Commission, as a part of its review of the plans for the construction. This is a secondary type of check and, of course, one which obviously has to be subsidiary to the congressional action that might be involved.

I am not personally familiar with the congressional action that was cited by Mr. Heath a while ago, but I am familiar with the fact that the interior parking or the off-street parking that is provided in the Federal and the District buildings is a point for discussion in the course of the review by the Commission of such construction plans.

Senator DOMINICK. My problem is this: We are trying to put in this bill provisions so that the citizens will have adequate parking, and we are superimposing a whole new authority to do this without any basic facts to indicate what the needs are going to be, or how many cars are going to be coming into the business area, or what the District is going to be 10 years from now, or anything else of this kind. It just seems to me so very complicated to go at it backward.

If we had the facts, we would know what we need. I don't think we have the facts.

Go ahead, Mr. Heath. I am sorry, I don't mean to continually interrupt.

Mr. HEATH. I would like to present the committee at this time with a group of photographs made during the month of May 1965. These photographs will show off-street parking facilities in the central business district that are operating at either above capacity or near capacity. I think from the sheer number of facilities in that category, depicted in this album, the committee will be able to visualize the off-street parking problem as it exists.

(Photographs referred to follow:)