Mr. RENTZEL. The complaint is we use automobiles when we should fly.

Mr. STEFAN. They have to fly in order to check ranges and so on. They have to be up in the air?

Mr. RENTZEL. Some of the operation has to be conducted by air, Mr. Stefan. I believe the industry feels we use cars to too great an extent, I am quite sure.

Mr. STEFAN. Which industry?

Mr. RENTZEL. The aviation industry. They feel we should fly more and that we come too frequently in cars to do inspection work. We have tried to use cars to save some money.

Mr. STEFAN. When you speak of industry, do you mean the operation of the airports?

Mr. RENTZEL. The fixed-base operators and the private operators. Mr. STEFAN. They feel we should fly over the field?

Mr. RENTZEL. That we are the civil-aviation Government agency and we ought to set an example.

CHECKING MILITARY RANGES

Mr. STEFAN. Are you checking any ranges for the services yet, for the Army and Navy?

Mr. RENTZEL. No, sir; we do not check their facilities as yet.
Mr. STEFAN. During the war.we did.

Mr. RENTZEL. Yes, sir.

Mr. STEFAN. I know some of them checked the Army ranges and could not land at them. Some of them were checking weather stations at Army airports and Army ranges. They would come in and be treated very coldly and not even be allowed to buy gasoline.

RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE ARMED SERVICES

What is the relationship between the CAA and the armed services today?

Mr. RENTZEL. It is very good. It is far better than it was. It has changed considerably, and I feel sure that the facilities which the military are operating of a similar type will be turned over to us or we will lease them and operate them as a part of the integrated system. That is what we are shooting for. I think our operations with the military are far better than they were.

Mr. STEFAN. I am glad to hear that, because some of the CAA employees complained bitterly of the treatment by the services in spite of the fact that they serviced the services and got no recognition during the war for a tremendous amount of work they did for the services.

Mr. RENTZEL. I feel there is a personal relationship between the military and this organization that has to be developed, and that this organization has to be established to be a service agency and be in uniform in time of war.

Mr. STEFAN. I have no other questions.

INCREASED FLIGHT-HOURS

Mr. ROONEY. Awhile ago you gave a certain figure with reference to number of flight-hours you propose in fiscal year 1951 for DC-3's

and for Beechcrafts, and you gave us the comparative figures for the present fiscal year. If my figures are correct, the total would be 21,300 for the coming fiscal year, total number of hours, as compared with 20,150 hours in 1950, or an increase of 1,150 hours; or, to put it' on a percentage basis, five and a half percent more inspection hours. Will you please insert at this point in the record the percentage increase in the cost for the operation of these aircraft for these number of hours, as well as a break-down of the figures, or I should say a list of the figures that you use to arrive at your percentage figure. (The information requested is as follows:)

Statement of increase in cost and percentage of increase for operation of aircraft fiscal years 1950 and 1951

Mr. ROONEY. With regard to this item "Transportation of things," wherein you request $60,500 for the coming fiscal year, will you tell us the amount that was expended for this purpose under this classification 03, in fiscal year 1949.

Mr. BAYNE. May we supply that for the record, Mr. Chairman? I do not have those figures with me.

Mr. ROONEY. When you furnish that, give us the exact amount. that was requested of this committee, or of the Congress, rather, in 1949; the exact amount expended, and what the balance, if any, was used for in fiscal year 1949.

(The information requested is as follows.)

The congressional request for the fiscal year 1949 included $31,000 for the transportation of things. During the fiscal year 1949, $52,373 was expended for this purpose. This was occasioned by an ability to procure necessary spare parts from surplus in excess of estimates. The difference of $21,373 was provided through a reduction of "Other objects" expenditures.

INVENTORY PURCHASES, FISCAL YEAR 1949

Will you also insert at this point in the record a statement of the monthly purchases of inventory by month during the fiscal year 1949. At this point in the record we shall insert the chart entitled "Operation of Aircraft Conversion of Flight-Hour Requirements to Fiscal Requirements."

(The information requested is as follows:)

None of the funds appropriated for this activity for the fiscal year 1949 were expended for the purchase of spare parts to be added to the inventory. All inventory acquisitions were from surplus.

Mr. ROONEY. The next item is entitled "Interfunctional" wherein there is a request for $97,267 above a current appropriation of $1,972,233. You should note there is a requested increase in one position. What is the reason for this requested increase?

Mr. SCHULER. That one position is a janitor's position in the regional office in Chicago, Ill.

Mr. ROONEY. What is the classification?

Mr. SCHULER. One CPC-3, salary $2,152 per annum.

Mr. ROONEY. What is the balance of the $5,653 increase in personal services for?