Mr. ROONEY. Are you talking of receipts? Mr. ROONEY. It costs you $425 a month? Mr. DEMAREST. Yes, sir. Mr. ROONEY. Have you included personal services in connection with that? Mr. DEMAREST. No, sir. This is for printing only. Mr. ROONEY. Suppose you tell us how much it costs altogether to get this out? Mr. GREEN. May I furnish it for the record? We do not have that here specifically. Mr. ROONEY. Very well, furnish it for the record. (The information referred to is as follows:) NEWSLETTER To date, the 41,000 copies of the Newsletter printed and distributed during the period July 1949-February 1950 for which final figures have been received have cost a total of $399.93 or a cost of nine-tenths of a cent per copy. Despite the fact that the Newsletter serves as a sales catalog, it has been the policy of the Office to put as large a part of the circulation as possible on a paid-subscription basis. Accordingly, a total of $454 has been received as of February 6, representing 909 1-year subscriptions at 50 cents each. The personnel employed for the issuance of the Newsletter as a separate publication is estimated at 25 percent of the time of one GS-12 and one GS-3 employee or a total of $2,362.50 per year. Projecting duplication costs for a full year gives a gross cost for this small business reference tool of $3,048.10. OTHER PUBLICATIONS Mr. STEFAN. What other publications does your section produce? Mr. GREEN. We prepare a stock copy of about 2 percent of them and issue those. Mr. STEFAN. How many pamphlets does your section get out altogether? Mr. GREEN. We are listing about 300 a month. Mr. STEFAN. A different kind of pamphlets? Mr. GREEN. The documents go through the Office and those which we think will sell in general number we duplicate and stock. That runs about 2 percent of the materials we handle. The other 98 percent we transfer to the Library of Congress where they are made. available in photographic form only. Mr. STEFAN. There are 300 pamphlets that come through your hands? Mr. GREEN. There are thousands that come through our hands, but we select 300. Mr. STEFAN. You are justifying your increase on packaging material from the Commission on Atomic Energy? Mr. GREEN. At the request of the Commission. Mr. STEFAN. What kind of packaging? Mr. GREEN. Perhaps I have not said it correctly, sir: The Atomic Energy Commission now runs an operation at Oak Ridge for furnishing the public with materials developed in the Atomic Energy Commission laboratories. They have concluded it is more appropriate for the Department of Commerce to furnish those materials for them than for them to do it. Mr. STEFAN. I wanted you to define "packaging materials" because you said that twice and I wondered what it was. Mr. GREEN. I do not mean to say that. Mr. STEFAN. Do you have any information about packaging? Mr. STEFAN. Do you have any publications on packaging, itself? Mr. GREEN. We will give you a complete bibliography on the subject. Mr. STEFAN. I would like to have, not for the record, but for the information of myself and members of the committee, all the information that you have on packaging. What I mean by "packaging" is the new method of packaging of foods and things like that. Do you have that? Mr. GREEN. Yes, sir. Mr. STEFAN. Do you have a complete story on packaging? Mr. GREEN. Yes, sir. Mr. STEFAN. The origins and the progress which has been made? Mr. GREEN. We have not developed it, but we can develop it. Mr. STEFAN. How many kinds and designers are there in the United States, the leading ones? Mr. GREEN. We will prepare that information for you; yes, sir. Mr. STEFAN. Some time ago I asked the Library of Congress to give me the full information on packaging. I have not gotten that from the Reference Service Library, yet. Perhaps I could have gotten it from your Office. Do you find they come to you for that information? Mr. GREEN. I am sure they would come to us for some of it. Mr. GREEN. As you understand, the Library of Congress is the ultimate storehouse of materials we handle. Mr. STEFAN. They will eventually get what you have and other agencies? Mr. GREEN. Yes, sir. They are the storehouse. Mr. STEFAN. You have had a lot to do with the packaging itself, from the originating point up to the new process of designing? Mr. GREEN. Yes, sir. The Quartermaster Corps and the Air Forces. Mr. STEFAN. You will furnish that information? Mr. GREEN. I will be very happy to furnish it, sir. ABSORPTION OF NEW ACTIVITY Mr. ROONEY. Why can you not absorb this new activity? Mr. GREEN. Because we are operating at our present level and our work loads are going to keep up there and this is a considerably new activity and if the committee feels the Department of Commerce is the place business should look for this kind of information, it will be done. Mr. ROONEY. It only means taking on 10 percent more business by your staff, does it not? Mr. GREEN. It means taking on a new activity and it means taking on the kind of man Mr. Flood wants us to take on who can interpret this kind of thing for the business community. Mr. FLOOD. Do you have provision for that kind of man that Mr. Flood wants now, or did you just think about it in the last 15 minutes? Mr. GREEN. May I repeat the statement I made: It will be the job of this physicist to work out these commercial implications, then digest the report, bring out its practical aspects and furnish the necessary high-light details so that business people may learn about the new material. Mr. FLOOD. That is what I thought. You are talking about business people. We are still talking about different things. It may surprise you to know there is a public in this United States of America, separate and distinct from the technical public, who are as much interested in this phase as the technicians. Mr. GREEN. I am beginning to see what you mean. Mr. FLOOD. I am flattered. Mr. GREEN. It is the public, the people who want to know and need to know and who are not interested in the intricacies of the art. Mr. FLOOD. You have just mentioned that. You have just said that for the first time. You have no provision in your budget or your table of organization for any employee to do what I think should be done, have you? Mr. GREEN. I believe that the kind of information which the nontechnical, nonengineering businessman needs to know is the kind of information you have in mind, too; is it not, sir? Mr. FLOOD. Yes. Mr. GREEN. That is what we expect that man, that physicist, to do for us. Mr. FLOOD. Very well. FEDERAL PURCHASING AND WAREHOUSING Mr. ROONEY. In today's Washington News, there is an editorial containing a statement that the Hoover Commission says the Federal Government could save $250,000,000 a year in purchasing and inventory. It found 150,000 Federal employees engaged in purchasing. Civilian agencies alone issue over 3,000,000 purchase orders a year. Half of them are for less than $10 and the paper work on each order costs more than $10. How many people do you have in the Department of Commerce engaged in purchasing? Mr. GLADIEUX. We centralize purchasing to the extent that we can for things in the Office of the Secretary. Mr. ROONEY. Will you insert at this point in the record a statement showing the number of employees throughout the Department of Commerce, including CAB and every other item contained in this budget, who are engaged in purchasing, as well as the number of purchase orders issued a year, how many of them are for less than $10, together with a statement of the total salaries and other objets necessary to carry on these people engaged in purchasing? Mr. GLADIEUX. Yes, sir. (The information requested is as follows:) Statement showing estimated average number of employees of the Department, and of the Civil Aeronautics Board, exclusive of those of the Inland Waterways Corporation, engaged in purchasing operations, and other related data PHILIP M. HAUSER, ACTING DIRECTOR HOWARD C. GRIEVES, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OSCAR H. NIELSON, BUDGET EXAMINER, OFFICE OF THE SECRE- Mr. ROONEY. The next item for our consideration is that for the Bureau of the Census, which appears at page 17 of the committee print and beginning at page 104 of the justifications. At this point, we shall insert in the record pages 104, 105, and 106 of the justifications, which contain the over-all summary of that Bureau. (The information referred to is as follows:) Permanent positions (net). Part-time and temporary employment... Regular pay in excess of 52- Piece price payments. 2, 347 1, 866. 7 $6, 368, 476 26, 836 6, 907. 7 $22, 028, 295 15, 795 9, 198. 1 $27, 688, 217 Total personal serv- 3, 168 2, 132. 8 6,995, 547 27, 657 7, 192. 3 49, 840, 960 16, 61619, 514. 5 31,520, 732 When testifying on the seventeenth decennial census the Bureau of the Census revised the figure on average number of employees for 1951 from 7,744.3 (originally reported) to 8,171.6, an increase of 427.3. Corresponding increases, therefore, should be reflected in the total of average employment for 1951 from 9,514.5 to 9,941.8 and in permanent positions from 9,198.1 to 9,625. GENERAL STATEMENT Mr. ROONEY. Dr. Hauser, do you have a general statement to make with regard to the request for the Bureau of the Census? The request is in the amount $37,342,000. Mr. HAUSER. Yes; I have a general statement. Mr. ROONEY. We shall insert Dr. Hauser's general statement at this point in the record. (The statement referred to is as follows:) 60785-50-pt. 5- -5 |