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that this country have a national games every third year or second year or something like that. Lake Placid obviously would be the ideal site to host a national games for our youth in between the Olympic games. I think it would be of tremendous interest all the way around. Mr. ROONEY. Thank you very much for your very fine testimony, Mr. Harrigan. I do hope that we will bring the bacon home.

Mr. SKUBITZ. Does that include the $960,000 for TV station? odt Mr. ROONEY. There is a rollcall vote on the floor, so we will have a 15-minute intermission.

[Brief recess.]

Mr. ROONEY. Our next witness will be Mr. Philip Krumm, president, U.S. Olympic Committee, New York, N.Y.

Before we proceed with you, Mr. Krumm, I would like to bring to the attention of my distinguished colleagues from Kansas the opening statement that I made yesterday.

Mr. SKUBITZ. Please don't read it all.

Mr. ROONEY. This is for your benefit because you seem to be concerned about who is winning and who is losing. In my opening statement yesterday I said: We are not concerned about the incidents such as those that have occurred in the past Olympic games. We have no intention of involving ourselves in such controversies during these hearings. Our only concern as far as these hearings are concerned is shall the Congress, through this committee, authorize $50 million for the Lake Placid Olympic games in 1980 period?

Mr. SKUBITZ. Mr. Chairman, I wasn't accusing my distinguished chairman

Mr. ROONEY. I am aware of that.

Mr. SKUBITZ. It was the last witness who seemed to put so much stress on winning and unless we had this we couldn't develop winners. I think winners are developed because a fellow has the capacity to win or has the talent, more so the will and the heart that he wants to be an Olympic champion. That is what makes winners.

If I may say one thing, Mr. Chairman, I have a little granddaughter who is 13. She had never paid much attention to Oylmpic games, but since she saw this little girl from Russia, Olga Korbut, on the bar she has been spending 21/2 hours a day working. This isn't just for weeks. She is at it all the time. This is what makes champions.

Mr. ROONEY. We all know that foreign countries have certain incentives. They give their athletes certain prerogatives. They take advantage of the Olympic games. That is why we are at a disadvantage. We are not here today to talk about that. We are here today to talk about the $50 million for Lake Placid.

You may proceed, Mr. Krumm.


Mr. KRUMM. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen: I would like first to introduce the man on my right, Colonel Don Miller, the executive director of the Olympic Committee in New York. There may be some questions of a technical nature, fund raising and other things you might want to ask me that I am sure he is well qualified to answer. I just

handle the executive and administrative end of the 29 Pan American sports. If you don't mind, some of the questions I may refer to Colonel Miller.

Mr. ROONEY. We can't talk about about fund raising, though.
Mr. KRUMM. You might have some questions later on.

Mr. Chairman and gentlemen: The Olympic games are the strongest moral force in today's society. This was a favorite statement by the late Avery Brundage, president of the International Olympic Committee. There is more evidence of the truth of this statement today than when it was advanced a decade ago.

The village of Lake Placid was endorsed by the U.S. Olympic Committee as a candidate to succeed Denver after that city returned the games to the International Olympic Committee in 1972, following the defeat of a statewide referendum for a minimal State tax spread over 3 years. These funds were required to help underwrite the expenses of Denver in hosting the games. Our Nation received an international black eye when Denver was forced to turn back the games. Mr. SKUBITZ. Did Denver intend to raise all the money through a State tax or were they looking for some Federal assistance, too? Can you tell me that?

Mr. KRUMM. When Denver made the bid we were sold a very glorious bill of goods. They said they had the university, which would close and be used for an Olympic village. They said there were no funding problems whatsoever. We felt, with all the billionaires out in the Denver area, they would be able to fulfill that commitment.

Mr. SKUBITZ. That doesn't answer my question, though. I am truly ignorant of this. You indicate in your statement that they were going to assess a tax and they failed in that. Were they assessing the tax and in turn expecting some Federal funds as well?

Mr. KRUMM. Yes, they were expecting some Federal funds.

Mr. ROONEY. If the gentleman will yield, we agreed to give them $15.5 million.

Mr. KRUMM. Then there was a provision in the bill which required a referendum. That is where it went down.

The International Olympic Committee, displeased with the return of the games to its jurisdiction, rewarded them to Innsbruck. In the recent Olympic winter games in Innsbruck, more attention was focused on these competitions than any other previous set of games in history. The USOC was gratified to receive a copy of Senate Resolution No. 386. introduced by Senator Mathias of Maryland, congratulating the team on its effort and which reads:

Whereas the Winter Olympic Games are held every four years to let the great athletes of the world vie with each other in a spirit of peace and friendship: and Whereas the 1976 United States Olympic Team consisted of many of the finest amateur athletes in America; and

Whereas these American athletes expended every effort in competition by winning ten medals, the best showing of any United States winter team since 1952 and displayed the highest degree of sportsmanship in the truest spirit of the Olympic Games; and

Whereas the performance of the United States team demonstrates the training, discipline, sacrifice, skill, and courage of the men and women chosen to represent this Nation in the Winter Olympic Games; and

Whereas the bright vision of the future which is traditionally American is seen by many as uncertain and cloudy, because of a series of national misfortunes of unprecedented severity; and

Whereas the members of the United States team have reminded all their fellow countrymen that the American vision is valid today for all Americans who exercise discipline, skill, and courage; and

Whereas the Nation is heartened by the example set by the United States team who have exerted themselves out of honor for their country, love for their sport, and respect for themselves; and

Whereas the members of the United States team have shown that flowers will bloom in the snow.

Resolved, That the Senate of the United States expresses pride in and gratitude for the conduct and achievement of the athletes, coaches, trainers, and committee members of the 1976 United States Winter Olympic Team for their excellent performance at the XII Winter Olympic Games.

Two years ago, the village of Lake Placid, after receiving the endorsement of the United States Olympic Committee, again presented its candidacy to the International Olympic Committee for the 1980 Olympic games. The award by the IOC was on the basis of the reputation that the village of Lake Placid had built up over the years as single best qualified city in the United States of America with most venues existing, expertise and the desire to host this important event. We do not envision that Lake Placid will have any trouble meeting its responsibilities. Furthermore, I wish to point out that the North Elba Park District, of which Lake Placid is one small community, has been designated a depressed area and hosting the games will provide the area with a much-needed economic shot in the arm.

Winter sports in the United States dates back to the turn of the century when Lake Placid hosted the earliest of winter sports competitions in this country. At the time Lake Placid was selected to host the 1932 Olympic winter games, the village had established itself as a community with excellent sports sites, well qualified technical experts, and an outstanding reputation among the nations of the world competing in winter sports.

Since 1932 Lake Placid has enhanced its position internationally in conducting major international competitions, including many world championships in the sports on the Olympic program, as well as the 1972 World University games.

No community in our country enjoys the singular reputation of Lake Placid in winter sports. We are gratified that a number of the men who have been involved in the conduct and administration of high-level winter sports competitions in the recent past have been assigned key roles by the Lake Placid Organizing Committee in planning for the 1980 games. The USOC has complete confidence in the men and women who are establishing the plans for the games with a view of returning these games to the athletes. These civic leaders have no desire to build monuments to themselves or their community. There is no desire to remodel the face of upstate New York, no plans to destroy the natural beauty of the area, but there is complete unselfishness in working for an uncomplicated and successful games.

I must stress that from the outset the Lake Placid Organizing Committee has envisioned an austere program for the construction of competition sites and the additional buildings which are required. All of their planning has been directed to producing buildings of a permanent nature to enhance the normal community life, and provide increased opportunities for winter sports enthusiasts. After all, Lake Placid's economy is based on its recognition as a winter resort area and the enhancement of its facilities will attract many more visitors to the area for wholesome recreational outlets.

It takes money to put on the games. But it is a lot more money than a community the size of Lake Placid, or the entire North Elba Park District, could be expected to possess or raise for this effort. Suffice to say, prior to Lake Placid making its presentation 2 years ago to the International Olympic Committee, their leaders secured the support of the President of the United States and the Governor of the State of New York in a united effort to have the Olympic winter games returned to the United States.

Without the financial support of the Federal Government, as outlined in H.R. 8906 introduced by Congressman Robert C. McEwen of New York, July 24, 1975, and the State of New York, the games will not take place in Lake Placid. At this late date, if Lake Placid fails to receive financial support and must return back the games, I pledge to you that there will be no 1980 Olympic winter games and it will seriously jeopardize our Nation's chances of ever serving as a host for any future Olympic games.

How important are the Olympic games to Lake Placid? The village received the applause of the sports world for a job well done in 1932 and a tremendous boost to its economy. As a winter resort, it has continued to grow and prosper and earn the respect of all nations for its ability to conduct winter sports activities.

In 1960, when Squaw Valley, Calif., was selected by the International Olympic Committee, the United States took a prominent position in winter sports as the games were magnificently conducted and this Nation was acknowledged as a leader among winter sports nations. For the Squaw Valley games, the Federal Government appropriated funds and contributed military personnel to help conduct the games, furnishing valuable manpower at no direct expense to the taxpayers. In addition, the State of California generously contributed financial support for the construction of the sites for skiing, speed skating, figure skating, and ice hockey. As a result, today Squaw Valley is one of the outstanding winter resort areas for recreational skiing in the Far West.

The cost of hosting the 1932 Olympic winter games at Lake Placid was minimal. There was no Federal support requested or received. The State of New York issued a small bond issue. At that time, there were only 17 nations and 307 athletes involved in five different sports, only one of which was for women. Looking ahead to 1980, there will be at least 40 nations sending more than 1.300 athletes to compete in a broad-scale program of 7 sports, 37 separate events. The women will be participating in four different sports in the next Olympic winter games.

I might add in many of these sports there is some confusion. They are broken down into 37. In speed skating alone the women have nine. This accounts for the difference in numbers.

Mr. ROONEY. That is why I asked that question.

Mr. KRUMM. I want to reiterate that Lake Placid already has the competition sites selected. However, there will be a minimum outlay of capital expenditures to bring these sites up to the standards required by the international sports federations concerned with the conduct of the games. It is acknowledged that Lake Placid has the fastest bobsled run in the world. They will construct a new and enlarged arena for the major figure skating competitions and ice hockey

matches with a refrigerated speed skating ring to be constructed alongside the arena.

But the capital invetments required are for more than these athletic facilities. Funds must be used for the construction of accommodations for the athletes, the world press, radio and television, and more than 5,000 sports technicians who will assist in the conduct of the games. None of the funds requested will be diverted to the construction of roads and highways and none will be utilized for the construction of accommodations for visitors.

Worldwide press and television coverage of the Olympic games is expensive in dollars, comparatively cheap in the benefits to the surrounding area and the host nation. The capital investments for these facilities do not bring any appreciable cash return, but they are an integral part of conducting a successful set of games.

It is recognized that ticket sales, merchandising contracts, rights fees for television-mainly the United States-will funnel some dollars into the Treasury. However, without the approval of the proposed appropriations legislation to provide the organizing committee with much needed working capital to get on with the implementation of construction plans, the 1980 Olympic winter games will not become a reality for Lake Placid and, once again, the image of our great Nation will be internationally tarnished and permanently blemished. We strongly urge you to consider the impact of the village of Lake Placid on the rest of the world as it hosts the 1980 Olympic winter games.

In closing, let me say that the United States must assume the leadership role in creating international amity and goodwill through amateur sports and the 1980 winter Olympic games provides a golden opportunity to do this. In the best interests of our national welfare, I urge your complete support of H.R. 8906 which authorizes the essential Federal appropriations for the 1980 winter games.

Mr. ROONEY. Thank you, Mr. Krumm.

Before I get into any direct questions I would like to ask you how long have you been the president of the U.S. Olympic Committee?

Mr. KRUMM. Three years. There is a 4-year term. You can't be reelected. I have been on the board of directors of the Olympics for 16 or 17 years.

Mr. ROONEY. What caused your involvement in the Olympics?

Mr. KRUMM. I can best answer that by saying when I was on the Mike Wallace Show he asked, "How much money do you receive as salary?" and I said, "None." He said, "Why do you do this?" My answer was that you get to a point in life why do you go to church? Why do you do certain things? Why do you head the Boy Scouts? Why do you do things like this? They are a challenge, and you think you can contribute something to the youth of the country and the general welfare of the entire Nation.

Mr. ROONEY. I commend you for your great concern and your interest.

Back in the late fifties and early sixties we conducted some very extensive fundraising activities in the Jaycees for the Olympics. We raised a substantial amount of money in the Allentown-BethlehemEaston area. Do you intend to do that for the 1980 Olympics?

Mr. KRUMM. Of course, this is a little off the subject again, but we have a fundraising program and we raised from the public sector $11 million for the three games-summer games, winter games and Pan

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