a year. We figure each of the nine standing committees will meet perhaps 10 times in the year, and the Conference itself will meet twice a year. Then you have 9 staff reporters, or staff directors, who will certainly make 15 trips a year. That multiplies out to more than $50,000. Our experience indicates to date that we will be under rather than over with that amount. We are being perfectly frank about it. This is a new venture. Mr. THOMAS. Since this is a new agency and calculated to wind up December 31, 1962, are you going to wind it up then, Judge? Judge PRETTYMAN. We have to make a report, Mr. Chairman. Mr. THOMAS. You know the most permanent thing on earth is a temporary government agency. Judge PRETTYMAN. That is true. Mr. THOMAS. You and your distinguished colleagues will do a fine job, and perhaps you can talk Mr. Rooney into giving you the money you need now on a no-year basis with the understanding you will wind up next year. Will this go on to the next year, and next year will you come in with a recommendation to go 6 or 8 months longer? Judge PRETTYMAN. The Executive order establishing us requires us to make a report by the end of next year. Mr. THOMAS. Are we going to wind it up? Judge PRETTYMAN. That will be a windup of this technically. Speaking perfectly frankly, I hope a major recommendation in the report will be that such a body be made permanent. If the body is to be made permanent, Congress would have to establish it. The history of the movement shows such a body ought to be a permanent feature of the Federal Government. Understand this, the members of the conference get no pay. The money that will be expended will be for research assistance and travel. We have here conference of 86 people gathered from all over. Mr. THOMAS. We understand this is a high type patriotic service rendered by most of you gentlemen. MEMBERSHIP OF CONFERENCE Mr. ROONEY. Do you have a list of the 86 who make up this conference? Mr. MAXSON. Yes [handing]. Mr. ROONEY. We shall insert these pages at this point in the record. (The list referred to follows:) ROLL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES, JULY 1, 1961 COUNCIL Chairman E. Barrett Prettyman, of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Manuel F. Cohen, of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Walter Gelhorn, of the Columbia University School of Law. Joseph P. Healey, of the Boston Edison Co., Boston, Miss. Everett Hutchinson, of the Interstate Commerce Commission. James M. Landis, Special Assistant to the President. John D. Lane, of the firm Hedrick & Lane, Washington, D.C. Earl Latham, of Amherst College. Carl McGowan, of the firm Ross, McGowan & O'Keefe, Chicago, Ill. Nathaniel L. Nathanson, of the Northwestern University School of Law. GENERAL MEMBERSHIP Karl E. Bakke, of the U.S. Tariff Commission. Donald C. Beelar, of the firm of Kirkland, Ellis, Hodson, Chaffetz & Masters, Washington, D.C. James H. Benney, of the firm of Orrick, Dahlquist, Herrington & Sutcliffe, San Francisco, Calif. Marver H. Bernstein, of Princeton University. Carman G. Blough, of Penn Laird, Va. J. D. Bond, of the Atomic Energy Commission. Reva Beck Bosone, of the Post Office Department. Neil Brooks, of the Department of Agriculture. Kent H. Brown, of the State of New York Public Service Commission. Charles W. Bucy, of the Department of Agriculture. Clark Byse, of the Law School of Harvard University John K. Carlock, of the Department of the Treasury. John T. Chadwell of the firm Snyder, Chadwell, Keck, Kayser & Ruggles, Chicago, Ill. G. Howland Chase, of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. Cyrus J. Colter, of the Illinois Commerce Commission. John F. Cushman, of the Federal Communications Commission. Richard M. Davis, of the firm Lewis, Grant & Davis, Denver, Colo. George S. Dixon, of the firm Matheson, Dixon & Bieneman, Detroit, Mich. Thomas J. Donegan, of the Subversive Activities Control Board. Bernard Dunau, of the firm Jaffee & Dunau, Washington, D.C. David C. Eberhart, of the General Services Administration. Irvin Fane, of the firm of Spencer, Fane, Britt & Browne, Kansas City, Mo. David Ferber, of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Edward W. Fisher, of the Department of the Interior. Abe Fortas, of the firm Arnold, Fortas & Porter, Washington, D.C. Myles F. Gibbons, of the Railroad Retirement Board. Robert E. Giles, of the Department of Commerce. Robert W. Ginnane, of the Interstate Commerce Commission. William L. Griffin, of the Department of State. Lawrence E. Hartwig, of the Renegotiation Board James McI. Henderson, of the Federal Trade Commission. Harold W. Horowitz, of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. Daggett H. Howard, of the Federal Aviation Agency. Leo A. Huard, of the University of Santa Clara College of Law. Rosel H. Hyde, of the Federal Communications Commission. John A. Johnson, of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Paul A. Johnston, of the Department of Commerce. T. C. Kammholz, of the firm of Vedder, Price, Kaufman & Kammholz, Chicago, Ill. R. Keith Kane, of the firm of Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft, New York, N.Y... Earl W. Kintner, of the firm of Arent, Fox, Kintner, Plotkin & Kahn, Washington, D.C. Robert H. Knight, of the Department of the Treasury. John W. Kopecky, of the Housing and Home Finance Agency. William C. Koplovitz, of the firm of Dempsey & Koplovitz, Washington, D.C. Jerome K. Kuykendall, of the Federal Power Commission. Philip R. Layton, of the Federal Trade Commission. Sol Lindenbaum, of the Department of Justice. Karl D. Loos, of the firm of Pope, Ballard & Loos, Washington, D.C. Dominick L. Manoli, of the National Labor Relations Board. John C. Mason, of the Federal Power Commission. Joseph E. McElvain, of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. Thomas G. Meeker, of the firm of Schnader, Harrison, Segal & Lewis, Philadelphia, Pa. Lawrence V. Meloy, of the Civil Service Commission. Emmette S. Redford, of the University of Texas. Hubert A. Schneider, of Pan American World Airways, New York, N.Y. Ashley Sellers, of the firm of Cummings & Sellers, Washington, D.C. Bertram B. Stillwell, of the Interstate Commerce Commission. Earl J. Thomas, of the Department of the Interior. Cyrus R. Vance, of the Department of Defense. John H. Wanner, of the Civil Aeronautics Board. Howard C. Westwood, of the firm of Covington & Burling, Washington, D.C. Joseph Zwerdling, of the Federal Power Commission. CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES Everett McKinley Dirksen, Senator from Illinois. John B. Bennett, Representative from Michigan. ALTERNATE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES Thomas B. Collins, of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Franklin B. Dryden, of the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration. Cornelius Kennedy, of the Senate Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure. Kurt Borchardt, of the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Charles P. Howze, of the House Special Subcommittee on Regulatory Agencies. Andrew Stevenson, of the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. PARLIAMENTARIAN Leonard Braman, of the firm of Newmyer & Bress, Washington, D.C. Mr. ROONEY. Do these make up the 86 ? Mr. LOEVINGER. Yes, sir. Mr. ROONEY. One final question. What is the rate of your salary, Mr. Maxson? Mr. MAXSON. I am a grade 15. Mr. ANDRETTA. The only grade we could get out of the Commission was a grade 15. We could not get a supergrade. Mr. BOLAND. I want to note the presence of a friend of mine, John Lane, a private practitioner. I am delighted he was selected to serve as a member of the Council. He is known by many of us up here on the Hill. He has had considerable experience on the Hill. He served as an administrative assistant to Senator McMahon. We wish you well. Mr. ROONEY. If there are no further questions, we thank you, Judge Prettyman and gentlemen. MONDAY, AUGUST 21, 1961. U.S. INFORMATION AGENCY WITNESSES EDWARD R. MURROW, DIRECTOR BEN POSNER, DEPUTY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATION ROMNEY WHEELER, DIRECTOR, TELEVISION SERVICE Mr. THOMAS. Will the committee please come to order? We have with us our distinguished friends from the U.S. Information Agency. We are certainly delighted and honored to have Mr. Murrow here with us. Mr. Rooney, will you conduct the examination for the committee? Mr. ROONEY. The next item is to be found at page 48 of the committee print. It is for the U.S. Information Agency, salaries and expenses in the additional amount of $2,400,000 as contained in House Document No. 179. However, this request is superseded by a letter addressed to the chairman, Mr. Thomas, by the Acting Director of the Agency under date of August 11, 1961, which reduces the amount requested by $425,000 to the sum of $1,975,000. We shall at this point insert in the record the letter to which I have referred. (The letter referred to follows:) The Honorable ALBERT THOMAS, House of Representatives. U.S. INFORMATION AGENCY, DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: The Agency respectfully wishes to bring to your attention a reduction in requirements for supplemental appropriation (H. Doc. No. 179) for the appropriation "Salaries and expenses, U.S. Information Agency." That supplemental appropriation was originally transmitted on May 29, 1961, in the amount of $2,400,000. The Agency has now determined that it can be reduced by $425,000 to a total of $1,975,000. The Agency's supplemental submission, providing for a substantial increase in radio and television activities in Latin America and Southeast Asia, was originally developed on the assumption that the requested increases, if approved, would be made available at the beginning of fiscal year 1962. On that basis, new positions requested for the broadcasting and television services were expected to be filled on the average by October 1, 1961 (reflecting a 25-percent lapse), and a 14-hour increase in daily broadcasting to Latin America and a 3hour increase in daily broadcasting to Southeast Asia were expected to begin on July 1, 1961. The passage of time since the initial transmittal makes it necessary to plan a later start for these expanded programs. Accordingly, we now expect the new positions related to the Latin American programs to be filled on the average by late November (reflecting a 40-percent lapse) and the new positions related to the programs for Southeast Asia to be filled on the average by January 1, 1962 |