to be appropriated by this Act for that year: Provided, however, That grants, subsidies, and contributions, and payments to individuals other than Federal employees, shall not be counted as an administrative expense.

PART B-COORDINATION OF ANTIPOVERTY PROGRAMS

SEC. 1111. (a) In order to insure that all Federal programs related to the purposes of this Act are carried out in a coordinated manner

(1) the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare is authorized to call upon other Federal agencies to supply such statistical data, program reports, and other materials as he deems necessary to discharge his responsibilities under this Act, and to assist the President in coordinating the antipoverty efforts of all Federal agencies;

(2) Federal agencies which are engaged in administering programs related to the purposes of this Act, or which otherwise perform functions relating thereto, shall (A) cooperate with the Secretary in carrying out his duties and responsibilities under this Act; and (B) carry out their programs and exercise their functions in such manner as will, to the maximum extent permitted by other applicable law, assist in carrying out the purposes of this Act; and

(3) the President may direct that particular programs and functions, including the expenditure of funds, of the Federal agencies referred to in paragraph (2) shall be carried out, to the extent not inconsistent with other applicable law, in conjunction with or in support of programs authorized under this Act.

(b) In order to insure that all existing Federal agencies are utilized to the maximum extent possible in carrying out the purposes of this Act, no funds appropriated to carry out this Act shall be used to establish any new department or office when the intended function is being performed by an existing department or office.

(c) It shall be the responsibility of the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, and the heads of all other departments and agencies concerned, acting through the President's Committee on Manpower, to provide for, and take such steps as may be necessary and appropriate to implement, the effective coordination of all programs and activities within the executive branch of the Government relating to the training of individuals for the purpose of improving or restoring employability.

(d) The Secretary of Labor, pursuant to such agreements as may be necessary or appropriate (which may include arrangements for reimbursement), shall (1) be responsible for assuring that the Federal-State employment service provides and develops its capacity for providing maximum support for the programs described in subsection (c); and

(2) obtain from the Secretary of Commerce, the Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, and the head of any other Federal agency administering a training program such employment information as will facilitate the placement of individuals being trained.

INFORMATION CENTER

SEC. 1112. (a) In order to insure that all Federal programs related to the purposes of this Act are utilized to the maximum extent possible, and to insure that information concerning such programs and other relevant information is readily available in one place to public officials and other interested persons, the Secretary is authorized as he deems appropriate to collect, prepare, analyze, correlate, and distribute such information, either free of charge or by sale at cost (any funds so received to be deposited to the Secretary's account as an offset to such cost), and make arrangements and pay for any printing and binding without regard to the provisions of any other law or regulation.

(b) The Secretary shall publish and maintain on a current basis, a catalog of Federal programs relating to individual and community improvement. The Secretary is further authorized to make grants from funds appropriated to carry out title V of this Act, to States and communities to establish information service centers for the collection, correlation, and distribution of information required to further the purposes of this Act.

(e) In order to insure that all Federal programs related to the purposes of this Act are utilized to the maximum possible extent, and in order to insure

that all appropriate officials are kept fully informed of such programs, the Secretary shall establish procedures to assure prompt distribution to States and local agencies of all current information, including administrative rules, regulations and guidelines, required by such agencies for the effective performance of their responsibilities.

EVALUATION AND RESEARCH REPORTS

SEC. 1113. (a) All administrators of programs under this Act are directed to utilize to the fullest extent possible data retrieval systems and other advanced evaluative techniques.

(b) Reports of all completed evaluations or research studies contracted for under authority of this Act, shall be made immediately available to Congress for review.

PROHIBITION OF FEDERAL CONTROL

SEC. 1114. Nothing contained in this Act shall be construed to authorize any department, agency, officer, or employee of the United States to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration, or personnel of any educational institution or school system.

TRANSFER OF FUNDS

SEC. 1115. Notwithstanding any limitation on appropriations under any title of this Act, or any Act authorizing appropriations for any such title not to exceed 10 per centum of the amount appropriated or allocated from any appropriation for the purpose of enabling the Secretary to carry out programs or activities under any such title may be transferred and used by the Secretary for the purpose of carrying out programs or activities under any other such title; but no such transfer shall result in increasing the amounts otherwise available under any title by more than 10 per centum.

PRIVATE ENTERPRISE PARTICIPATION

SEC. 1116. The Secretary and the heads of any other Federal departments or agencies to which the conduct of programs described in this Act have been delegated shall take such steps as may be desirable and appropriate to insure that the resources of private enterprise are employed to the maximum feasible extent in the programs described in this Act. The Secretary and such other agency heads shall submit at least annually to the Congress a joint or combined report describing the actions taken and the progress made under this section.

TITLE XII-TREATMENT OF INCOME FOR CERTAIN PUBLIC
ASSISTANCE PURPOSES

PUBLIC ASSISTANCE

SEC. 1201. (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of titles I, IV, X, XIV, XVI, and XIX of the Social Security Act, a State plan approved under any such title shall provide that

(1) the first $85 plus one-half of the excess over $85 of payments made to or on behalf of any person for or with respect to any month under title II, III, IV, or V of this Act or any program assisted under such title shall not be regarded (A) as income or resources of such person in determining his need under such approved State plan, or (B) as income or resources of any other individual in determining the need of such other individual under such approved State plan;

(2) no payments made to or on behalf of any person for or with respect to any month under such title or any such program shall be regarded as income or resources of any other individual in determining the need of such other individual under such approved State plan except to the extent made available to or for the benefit of such other individual; and

(3) no grant made to any family under title VIII of this Act shall be regarded as income or resources of such family in determining the need of any member thereof under such approved State plan.

(b) No funds to which a State is otherwise entitled under title I, IV, X, XIV, or XVI of the Social Security Act for any period before July 1, 1965, shall be withheld by reason of any action taken pursuant to a State statute which prevents such State from complying with the requirements of subsection (a).

Chairman PERKINS. The committee will come to order. A quorum is present.

We have with us this morning Sargent Shriver, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity.

First, I wish to apologize about the schedule. Mrs. Green has done her best to take the higher education bill out of the Special Education Subcommittee but unexpectedly she was unable to move the bill over the weekend. So, she has called another meeting of the Special Education Subcommittee this afternoon.

We have 15 members of this committee tied up on the Special Education Subcommittee considering the higher education bill. Time is of the essence in moving that bill. So, we will run here through the first quorum call today with Sargent Shriver and then we will let the witness and his assistants stand by until after the subcommittee and the full committee mark up the higher education bill.

We anticipate that the subcommittee may be able to move the bill tonight and the full committee in all probability tomorrow or the latest by Wednesday.

I regret the interruption in the schedule but, as I stated there are many reasons why we need to move the higher education bill and time is of the essence.

Mr. SCHEUER. Mr. Chairman, on behalf of myself and several other members, in fact a fairly substantial number of members, I wish to express my deep unhappiness at the Office of Economic Opportunity coming over here and presenting us with hundreds and hundreds of pages of vital information immediately before the hearing. It cripples us severely in asking intelligent questions and nullifies to a large extent the very purpose of these hearings. We are entitled to this information a minimum of 48 hours before the commencement of the hearings. Our rules are transparently and unmistakenly clear on the subject. Mr. GIBBONS. Wait, that is not right.

Mr. SCHEUER. It certainly is.

Mr. GIBBONS. It is not right. The 48-hour rule that you refer to, Mr. Scheuer, pertains to executive sessions of the full committee when the committee is receiving a report from a subcommittee and does not pertain to receiving testimony from witnesses.

Mr. SCHEUER. We are supposed to have the testimony of any witness 48 hours before the start of a hearing.

Chairman PERKINS. We are extremely pleased today to welcome to the committee the Honorable Sargent Shriver, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity to explain to us provisions of the administration's proposals for extending and amending the Economic Opportunity Act, as well as to give the committee benefit of efforts by the Office of Economic Opportunity to carry out the programs authorized by the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964. I want to personally observe at this time that I believe the former Director of the Peace Corps, our distinguished witness today, Sargent Shriver has done an outstanding job of administering programs which truly open up new frontier of governmental effort to secure economic opportunity for millions of American citizens whose families have been literally on a cyclical treadmill of poverty. For many American families the process of technological change, automation, and the declining opportu

nities on the farm accompanied by urbanization and centralization of population, has posed severe economic hardships that are handed down from generation to generation.

The President as well as our leadoff witness today and many Members of Congress have recognized that the solution of economic disadvantage in these millions of American families does not lie in the traditional approaches taken by government. New times and new problems demand imaginative new solutions. I believe that the programs authorized under the Economic Opportunity Act because they are designed to turn welfare recipients into taxpaying citizens through programs designed to increase their earning capacity, will return to the treasury many times over in the years to come the funds expended to provide occupational training, education, health services, and other constructive benefits. As I have said I believe progress has been made in effectively administering the programs Congress first authorized in 1964. Because this was an entirely new program seeking novel approaches to problems that had defied former methods of solution. I think it was reasonable to anticipate that there would be initiative administrative problems. I think for the most part the Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity has done an extremely effective job in meeting and solving those problems as they arose. We are delighted to have you today Mr. Shriver and you may proceed in any manner you wish. Let me ask that members refrain to propose questions during the presentation with the assurance that on the conclusion of Mr. Shriver's testimony adequate time will be allotted for this purpose. The committee will recall Mr. Shriver at a suitable time if that should be necessary.

The committee will recess at the appropriate time in order to afford the Special Subcommittee on Education adequate time to resume executive session to mark up the Higher Education Amendments of 1967.

Mr. PUCINSKI. Mr. Chairman, I feel particularly glad to have Mr. Shriver here this morning since we in Chicago claim him pretty much as our own although he has won the admiration of the hearts of all the people all over the country because of the tremendous job he and his staff have done in giving thousands upon thousands of people in this country a completely new lease on life and a new hope.

Recently some of my colleagues and I were in Chicago. We recall the late Mr. Hilliard told us during our discussions that he as director of public welfare in the county of Cook was able to remove 17,000 people from the public dole because of many of the programs that the Office of Economic Opportunity had brought to Chicago, Cook County. I daresay while there are those who would like to tinker with this program today, history will show that indeed President Johnson and President Kennedy, had the vision, the understanding of the real need of our society.

Sargent Shriver has put into meaningful action the great hopes that both President Kennedy and President Johnson had for this great democracy of ours. It is the first country in the world to try to reduce poverty to an absolute minimum.

I think we are all privileged to have you here this morning to give us an accounting of your stewardship. I know that if the day ever comes when Sargent Shriver decides to leave this office whoever is going to

follow him will have a tremendously difficult job because of the high standards of perfection that he has set for this office.

Mr. DENT. Some of us want to praise Sargent Shriver, some of us want to bury him. I move the regular order so that we can proceed. Chairman PERKINS. Proceed, Sargent Shriver.

STATEMENT OF SARGENT SHRIVER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY

Mr. SHRIVER. Mr. Chairman, I am grateful for the comments which have just been made by you and by others.

Before I proceed with my actual statement I would appreciate, if it is agreeable to you, to respond just briefly to Congressman Scheuer's criticism.

All the agencies of the Federal Government I think have some difficult determining how much material to supply to various committees. I think the record will show that the bill H.R. 8311 on which I appear to testify was presented to the Congress on the 10th of April, some 2 months ago.

The congressional presentation of my agency was submitted to the Congress last Thursday afternoon. It is true that everything is not in this folder. It is also true that there is a great deal of information in this folder on each of the programs.

We do not hold out, Congressman Scheuer, that everything you would want to know is in here but we are always trying to balance the amount of interest that the particular committee members will have against total request of an individual member.

Mr. SCHEUER. We just received all of this at this very moment.

Mr. SHRIVER. This was delivered last week. This is not the whole story. Don't misunderstand me.

We have a huge presentation just on the Job Corps which I hope we will have time to go into in some detail. We have a huge presentation on Community Action and so forth. But the problem, as I was trying to say, is that we are continually confronted by how much to

give.

We thought that this was a good beginning at least which went into the program in some detail. The other material was made available this morning but it is much more than most members will want.

I am not trying to claim that we do it right all the time but I am trying to say there was substantive and substantial amounts of information available more than 48 hours in advance of the hearing. This was delivered to the committee staff.

The next time we will deliver it not only to the individual staff but to your individual offices.

I am here, Mr. Chairman, in support of H.R. 8311 which would authorize $2.06 billion for continuation and expansion of the various programs which have been inaugurated by the Office of Economic Opportunity.

Three years ago this committee of the House of Representatives shaped the legislation which began America's war against poverty. At that time I believe there was little understanding in this country about poverty.