Chairman PATMAN. We have an understanding oftentimes that the member can submit the question in writing. Representative RUMSFELD. I do not have a question. I have a request. Chairman PATMAN. Well, you can get it up and including the request. And the Representative RUMSFELD. I am making the request. It is a simple one. I would like to see the data in each of these functions and subfunctions arrayed the way that you have just described you have it, supplying only the data you feel is accurate. Chairman PATMAN. Is that information indicated on a certain page of a certain document? Representative RUMSFELD. Only he has the document. We do not have it. It is not in any of these books he has provided. Chairman PATMAN. If you could be more specific Mr. Zwick. Mr. Rumsfeld, I first suggest that most of it is in these documents. You know, the budget document consists this year of six different items. One, the message and the rest of the budget document that you normally think of. Two, the special analytic studiesRepresentative RUMSFELD. I can count but you Mr. ZwICK. And there is Representative RUMSFELD. It is not arrayed the way that you just indicated you have it. Chairman PATMAN. Mr. Zwick, will you try to provide that information when you look over your transcript of the testimony here? Mr. ZwICK. I would be happy to. Chairman PATMAN. To the best of your knowledge and ability. Mr. Zwick. Subject to two constraints. One, it is not easy because the question of what data is good and what data is bad is a very tough one and, two, I will not be here after Monday noon. [Laughter.] So, I want to be quite clear on the question that you are asking and the cavalier spirit with which I can say surely, we will give you all the information that we have available. [Laughter.] Representative RUMSFELD. You are not suggesting that you do not understand my question. Mr. ZWICK. I am saying that your statement that it is a simple question was incorrect. I do not think that is a simple thing to do. Representative RUMSFELD. First, I asked you if you had it, and you said yes, so if you have it I cannot imagine why it would be difficult for you to supply it. Mr. Zwick. The question is "it" and you qualified "it" as reasonable material, not all material, but reasonable material, and that is the difficult part of it. I am not trying to Representative RUMSFELD. You said you did not want to send out any information you did not feel was accurate. That is fine. Do not. Mr. ZwICK. Fine, but I am saying sorting through Representative RUMSFELD. If it ends with a function for "Natural Resources" with a blank paper then we will know exactly on what the Bureau of the Budget feels they have good data. Nothing. And if it is 50-percent full, we will know that you feel it is 50-percent accurate. Do you follow me? Mr. ZWICK. Yes; I follow you very well. Representative RUMSFELD. You make the judgment, I do not make the judgment. Mr. ZwICK. I follow you very clearly. Representative RUMSFELD. There is that slip. Chairman PATMAN. And if you can supply it, his successor will be available, I am sure, after Monday. (The following material was subsequently supplied by the Bureau of the Budget in response to the suggestion of the Chairman :) MATERIAL SUBMITTED BY BUDGET DIRECTOR ZWICK As I indicated during my appearance before the Committee, dollar figures and reliable program information underlying each function and subfunction used in the functional classification of the budget are generally available, either in the budget documents printed by the Bureau of the Budget or in the extensive justification materials provided by the agencies to the Appropriations Committees of Congress. Table 17 of the regular budget document (pages 527-530) summarizes budget outlays by function and subfunction. Code numbers are shown for each function and subfunction. Table 14 of the budget (pages 513-524) moves to a greater level of detail, showing the agencies included under each subfunction. A still more detailed breakdown is provided in Part 4 of the budget (pages 173–479), where each appropriation account of the Government is shown, by agency, with the subfunctional code number identified for each account. A discussion of the program content of each function is included in the budget in Part 3, "Federal Activities by Function" (pages 67-171). Part 3 describes, through text and tables, the programs covered by the budget, classified by function, including relevant tables and charts on beneficiaries, workloads, or other available output measures. Samples of these tables are enclosed as Attachment A. Additional information of this type is presented in the Appendix volume of the budget, and, as noted above, in the agency justification materials. The Special Analyses volume contains various cross-cutting views of Federal programs which are more comprehensive than the functional categories and cover all activities in particular fields, even if the activity has a different primary purpose. Among the fields covered are education, manpower, health, and crime reduction. As in the case of Part 3, these Analyses, through text and tables, portray the programs involved in each field and-to the extent available provide data on numbers and characteristics of the beneficiaries. Samples of tables printed in the Special Analyses are enclosed as Attachment B. In the 1970 Special Analysis volume of the budget, a new Analysis is printed entitled "Selected Agency Budgets by Program Categories." This Analysis, a copy of which is also enclosed, presents for the first time the budget authority of most Government agencies classified in terms of the program structures used in their Planning-Programing-Budgeting (PPB) systems. As part of the PPB system, staff of the Bureau of the Budget and other executive branch agencies are using available data on benefits and beneficiaries of various programs,in an attempt to identify the most efficient approaches to achieving program objectives. As the system progresses, there is every reason to expect that the agencies will continue their efforts to obtain more reliable data and improve the methods of measuring the efficiency of alternative means of reaching specified goals. |