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COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE

RALPH YARBOROUGH, Texas, Chairman JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York HARRISON A. WILLIAMS, JR., New Jersey WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island

PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts GEORGE MURPHY, California GAYLORD NELSON, Wisconsin

RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, Pennsylvania WALTER F. MONDALE, Minnesota

WILLIAM B, SAXBE, Ohio
THOMAS F. EAGLETON, Missouri

RALPH TYLER SMITH, Illinois
ALAN CRANSTON, California
HAROLD E. HUGHES, Iowa

ROBERT O. HARRIS, Staff Director

JOHN S. FORSYTHE, General Counsel
Roy H. MILLENSON, Minority Staj Director

EUGENE MITTELMAN, Minority Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT, MANPOWER, AND POVERTY

GAYLORD NELSON, Wisconsin, Chairman RALPH YARBOROUGH, Texas

GEORGE MURPHY, California CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts

WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont WALTER F. MONDALE, Minnesota

PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado ALAN CRANSTON, California

RALPH TYLER SMITH, Illinois
HAROLD E. HUGHES, Iowa

WILLIAM R. BECHTEL, Professional Staj Member
John K. SCALES, Minority Counsel to Subcommittee

(II)

CONTENTS

Text of:

S. 3867..

Amendment No. 658.

S. 3878.

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

TUESDAY, May 5, 1970

Wilson, Robert J., executive vice president, National Alliance of Business-

men, Washington, D.C.; accompanied by Gerald Peterson, NAB

executive vice president for operations; Roy Siemiller, NAB vice presi-

dent for labor liaison; Clark Hamilton, NAB congressional relations;

and Joseph Cunningham, counsel. ----

Hamilton, Clark, of NAB Congressional Relations

Eschwege, Henry, General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., accom-

panied by Mr. Sanger and Mr. Woods--

Terry, R. M., Aladdin Heating Corp., San Leandro, Calif.

Russo, Joseph J., Hoffman Bros. Packing Co., Inc., Los Angeles, Calif...

Amador, Richard, director, Community and Human Resources Agency,

Los Angeles, Calif.

Hennemuth, Robert G., vice president for Industrial Relations, Raytheon

Service Co.; accompanied by James Finneen, special counsel; and Herbert

Fajors, director of training center --

Roodman, Sheldon, Community Legal Counsel, Chicago, Ill. -

WEDNESDAY, May 6, 1970

Ruffin, Nicholas C., Brooklyn, N.Y....

Eschwege, Henry, Associate Director, GOA, Washington, D.C., on behalf

of the General Accounting Office, accompanied by Raymond Schmitt..

Howard, Jack, on behalf of American Learning Systems, Inc., accompanied

by Mortimer Gerber, New York, N.Y.

Butler. Herbert, Fred Aberlin, and Michael Bartels, of Manpower Service

Training Division, Manpower, Inc.; and William Patton of Peoples

Drug Store

Greenberg, Herbert M., Ph. D., president, Marketing Survey and Research

Corp., New York, N.Y.; accompanied by Mrs. Jeanne Corwin, vice

president; and David Mayer, board chairman.

MONDAY, May 11, 1970

Nelson, Hon. Gaylord, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin.--.

Sb ilta, Hon. George P., Secretary, U.S. Department of Labor; accompanied

by Arnold R. Weber, Assistant Secretary for Manpower -

THURSDAY, MAY 14, 1970

Mller, Betty, on behalf of the American Federation of State, County, and

Municipal Employees, AFL CIO..-

Hitton, William, executive director, National Council of Senior Citizens,

Washington, D.C.; William C. Fitch, executive director, National

Council on Aging, Washington, D.C.; and Bernard Nash, executive

director, American Association of Retired Persons and National Retired

Téachas* Association, Washington, D.C., & Panel.

Na-h, Bernard, executive director, American Association of Retired Persons

and National Retired Teachers Association, Washington, D.C...

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Fitch, William C., executive director, National Council on Aging, Washing- Pago ton, D.C...

2486 Carstenson, Dr. Blue, national director of Green Thumb National Farmers

Union, Washington, D.C.; John Kmosena, director, Project Green
Thumb, Wisconsin Farmers Union; and Louis Johnson, president,
Arkansas Farmers Union, Little Rock, Ark., a Panel.

2527 Kmosena, John, director, Project Green Thumb, Wisconsin Farmers Union.

2531 Johnson, Lewis J., Arkansas Farmers Union, Little Rock, Ark.

2572 MONDAY, MAY 18, 1970 Hjornevik, Wesley L., Deputy Director, Office of Economic Opportunity, Washington, D.C..

2579 McGhee, George C., special representative of the chairman, Urban Coali

tion Action Council, Washington, D.C.; accompanied by Wayne L. Horvitz, former vice president, the Matson Line

2585 Holmes, Adolph, director of program operations, the National Urban League, Inc., New York..

2612 Blume, Lois, Federal-aid coordinator, County of Nassau, N. Y.; accompanied by Albert Massini, staff coordinator

2619 THURSDAY, May 21, 1970 Randolph, Hon. Jennings, a U.S. Senator from the State of West Virginia. 2780 Williams, Hon. Harrison A., Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of New Jersey

2783 Kennedy, Hon. Edward M., a U.S. Senator from the State of Massachusetts...

2785 Shultz, Hon. George P., Secretary, U.S. Department of Labor; accompanied - by Arnold R. Weber, Assistant Secretary for Manpower; and Malcolm

R. Lovell, Jr., Deputy Assistant Secretary for Manpower and Manpower
Administrator..

2812 Veneman, Hon. John G., Under Secretary, U.S. Department of Health,

Education, and Welfare; accompanied by Warren Roudebush, Executive
Director, and Robert Patricelli, Deputy Under Secretary (Policy); and
Howard A. Matthews, Director, Division of Manpower Development,
Office of Education..

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STATEMENTS
Amador, Richard, director, Community and Human Resources Agency,
Los Angeles, Calif.---

2258 American learning systems relative to testimony by Nicholas C. Ruffin and Henry Eschwege, statement by.

2301 Beitel, Gerard B., formerly employed by the American Learning Systems, Inc., prepared statement

2289 Blume, Lois, Federal aid coordinator, county of Nassau, N.Y., accompanied by Albert Massoni, staff coordinator..

2619 Prepared statement..

2634 Butler, Herbert, Fred Aberlin, and Michael Bartels, of Manpower Service

Training Division, Manpower, Inc.; and William Patton of Peoples
Drug Store.

2327 Carstenson, Dr. Blue, national director of Green Thumb National Farmers

Union, Washington, D.C.; John Kmosena, director, Project Green
Thumb, Wisconsin Farmers Union; and Louis Johnson, president,
Arkansas Farmers Union, Little Rock, Ark., a panel.

2527 Prepared statement of Dr. Blue Carstenson.

2500 Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America, prepared statement.-

2982 Eschwege, Henry, Associate Director, GAO, Washington, D.C., on behalf

of the General Accounting Office, accompanied by Raymond Schmitt.. 2289 Eschwege, Henry, General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., accompanied by Mr. Sanger and Mr. Woods..

2216 Prepared statement

2217 Finch, Hon. Robert H., Secretary of Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, prepared statement

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