COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS

PAT MCNAMARA, Michigan, Chairman

RON M. LINTON, Chief Clerk and Staff Director

RICHARD E. GERRISH, Minority Clerk

RICHARD B. ROYCE, JOSEPH F. VAN VLADRICKEN, WILLIAM E. MIRON, Jr., JOHN L. Mutz, and ALYCE THOMPSON, Professional Staff Members

SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON AIR AND WATER POLLUTION

EDMUND 8. MUSKIE, Maine, Chairman

(Pp. 1-210 appear in pt. 1; pp. 211-909 appear in pt. 2; and pp. 911-1063 appear in pt. 3)

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

ᏢᎪᎡᎢ 1

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 19, 1965

Hon. Nelson Rockefeller, Governor of the State of New York; accompanied by Dr. William J. Ronan, secretary to the Governor; Dr. Harold G. Wilm, commissioner of conservation; and Dr. Hollis Ingraham, commissioner of health.......

Hon. Hulett Smith, Governor of the State of West Virginia; accompanied by Bern Wright, chief of the water resources division, department of natural resources; and Con Hardman, administrative assistant to the Governor..

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 20, 1965

Roy M. Harris, director of the Washington State Pollution Control Commission, on behalf of the Association of State and Interstate Water Pollution Control Administrators__.

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5

29

45

Hon. James M. Quigley, Assistant Secretary, HEW; accompanied by Paul
W. Reed, Dr. Leon W. Weinberger, and Murray Stein..

Paul W. Reed, Chief, Construction Branch, Division of Water Supply and Pollution Control, Department of Health, Education, and Welfare--Dr. Leon W. Weinberger, Chief, Basic and Applied Science Branch, Division of Water Supply and Pollution, Department of Health, Education, and Welfare....

Murray Stine, Chief Enforcement Officer and Assistant Chief, Division of
Water Supply and Pollution Control, Department of Health, Education,
and Welfare.

Dr. D. W. Ryckman, Washington University, St. Louis, Mo....
David L. Gallagher, chairman, air and water resources subcommittee, Na-
tional Association of Manufacturers; accompanied by Daniel W. Cannon,
policy executor__

Hill R. Healen, executive director, Association of County Commissioners
of Georgia on behalf of the National Association of Counties....
Hugh Mields, Jr., associate director, U.S. Conference of Mayors...
Donald A. Slater, legislative representative, National League of Cities___

WASHINGTON, D.C., MAY 21, 1965

Hon. Gaylord Nelson, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin.
Hon. James M. Quigley, Assistant Secretary, Department of HEW;
accompanied by Dr. Leon W. Weinberger, Chief, Basic and Applied
Science Branch, Water Pollution Control Division...
Scott Pattison, executive director, Soap & Detergent Association..
John Moser, president, Soap & Detergent Association and vice president
of Lever Bros...

428

73

80

Charles G. Bueltman, technical director, Soap & Detergent Association...
Dr. John Brown, vice president in charge of research, Colgate-Palmolive
Co...

177

184

PART 2

PORTLAND, Maine, June 2, 1965

Richard M. Boyd, chairman, Greater Portland (Maine) Regional Planning
Commission.

213

Henry D. Johnson, Jr., superintendent, Waldoboro Sewer District, Waldoboro, Maine.

221

Mrs. Charles D. McEvoy, Jr., president, League of Women Voters of
Maine..

225

B. Morton Havey, executive director, Associated Industries of Maine, presented by David Stanley..

Marshall Burk, executive secretary, National Resources Council of Maine.. Ronald T. Speers, commissioner, Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Game..

Pace

249

283

285

Robert L. Dow, research director, Maine Department of Sea and Shore
Fisheries

Francis J. Lariviere, executive secretary, New England Interstate Water
Pollution Control Commission..

288

292

Everett Ware Smith, president, the New England Council.

302

Bryant L. Hopkins, chairman, New England Interstate Water Pollution
Control Commission...

309

Robert Oaks, chairman, Falmouth, Maine, Town Council.

312

Thomas Lacarver, on behalf of the New Hampshire Water Control Commission_..

313

Thomas F. Griffin, Jr., director of public works, Portland, Maine..

315

PHILADELPHIA, PA., JUNE 3, 1965

Samuel L. Baxter, water commissioner, city of Philadelphia, Pa... Robert V. Thomann, deputy project director, Delaware estuary comprehensive project, Public Health Service..

320

329

James F. Wright, executive director, Delaware River Basin Commission.
Frank W. Dressler, executive director, Water Resources Association of the
Delaware Basin...

364

379

S. N. Springer, member, City Council, City of Harrisburg, Pa.

391

Frank J. Bowden, Jr., executive director, Associated Petroleum Industries of Pennsylvania_

392

William Halliday, Atlantic Refining Co.

396

Harold F. Elkin, engineering consultant to Sun Oil Co.
Curtin Winsor, secretary, Trout Unlimited, Eastern Pennsylvania Chapter.
Thomas Dolan, executive director, Wissahickon Valley Watershed Asso-
ciation__

398

400

401

NEW ORLEANS, LA., JUNE 7, 1965

Victor Schiro, mayor of New Orleans, presented by Dr. Rodney C. Jung, city health director...

407

Robert A. LaFleur, executive secretary, Louisiana Stream Control Commission..

444

John E. Trygg, director, Division of Public Health Engineering, State
Board of Health of Louisiana__.

455

Henri Wolbrette, II, executive vice president, Louisiana Chemical Asso

ciation___.

467

Oliver G. Salinovich and Capt. Baldo V. Pausina, Louisiana Oyster Dealers & Growers Association.__

478

Walter C. Carey, consulting engineer on river problems and water resources projects.

480

Hugh B. Myers, chief engineer of the Department of Public Works of
Louisiana..

483

Interested Citizen..

485

ATLANTA, GA., JUNE 8, 1965

Ivan Allen, Jr., mayor, city of Atlanta, Fulton County, Ga., accompanied
by Robert Morris, engineer, water pollution control, city of Atlanta...
Paul E. Lacouture, member of Georgia Kraft Co.'s Water Resources Com-
mittee, accompanied by William M. Ebersole, vice president and general
manager of production, Georgia Kraft Co., and Virgil A. Minch, research
engineer, the Mead Corp....

R. S. Howard, executive secretary, Georgia Water Quality Control Board.
W. T. Linton, executive director, South Carolina Water Pollution Control
Authority

Arthur N. Beck, technical secretary, Alabama Water Improvement Com-
mission....

W. Elmer George, executive director, Georgia Municipal Association. Clarence M. Conway, executive director, Resources Advisory Board, Southeast River Basins, Atlanta, Ga...

488

495

527

537

366

572

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF., JUNE 15, 1965

Hon. Grant Sawyer, Governor of Nevada, presented by Ivan P. Head, administrator, Colorado River Commission of Nevada.......

Hugo Fisher, administrator, Natural Resources Agency of California. John D. Parkhurst, chief engineer and general manager, county sanitation districts of Los Angeles County.

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580

589

606

Grant A. Burton, chairman, California State Water Pollution Control
Board, San Francisco Bay region...

625

Harry Tow, city manager of Visalia, member of League of California Cities
Committee on Water Pollution_...

Dr. Curtis L. Newcombe, president, California Conservation Council.. Newell Case, president, Association of Bay Area Governments, presented by Warren Schmidt, executive director..

W. T. Burns, member, Industrial Waste Committee of California Manufac-
turers Association__

Warren R. Schoonover, consultant for the State of California, on behalf of
James Cobey, chairman, Senate Water Commission, State of California. -

KANSAS CITY, KANS., JUNE 16, 1965

Dwight F. Metzler, executive secretary, Kansas Water Resources Board...
Dr. Ross McKinney, Department of Civil Engineering, University of
Kansas

635

640

650

655

662

685

703

732

747, 755

J. Lee Mayes, chief engineer, Kansas State Department of Health.
Glen J. Hopkins, director, Pollution Control Department of Kansas City,
Mo..

Frank Seebree, chairman, finance committee, Kansas City, Mo.. council.. 752
Carl F. Hodgkinson, chief sanitary engineer, Schulp, Becker & Brennan,
Consulting Engineers.

V. C. Cavin, refinery manager, Phillips Petroleum Co..

L. O. Haupt, plant manager, the Procter & Gamble Manufacturing Co.
Jack K. Smith, executive secretary, Missouri Water Pollution Board..
Grant Barcus, chairman, Water Resources Committee, Kansas City, Kans.,
Area Chamber of Commerce.

BUFFALO, N. Y., JUNE 17, 1965

Hon. Robert F. Kennedy, a U.S. Senator from the State of New York....
Hon. Jacob K. Javits, a U.S. Senator from the State of New York...
Hon. Richard D. McCarthy, a Representative in Congress from the State
of New York..

759

761

766

782

785

790

794

800

Charles D. Gates, School of Civil Engineering, Cornell University, Ithaca,
N.Y

804

Dr. Hollis S. Ingraham, commissioner, New York State Department of
Health...

Charles R. Ross, member, International Joint Commission, United States
and Canada.

807

815

Dr. William E. Mosher, commissioner of health, Erie County Department of Health, Buffalo, N. Y..

834

Michael J. Stankewich, chief engineer and director, environment health,
Erie County Health Department, Buffalo, N. Y...

839

Edward D. Baxter, P.E., commissioner of public works, Buffalo, N. Y....
William J. Rose, supervisor, town of Evans, Erie County, N. Y.
Samuel M. Ralabate, supervisor, town of Brant, Erie County, N. Y.
E. V. O'Neil, president, Buffalo River Improvement Corp-

842

844

845

846

Dean R. Coston, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Legislative Services,
Department of Health, Education, and Welfare...

852

Jerome Wilkenfeld, Water Resources Committee, Associated Industries of New York State, Inc.

860

Stanley P. Spisiak, Buffalo, N.Y., on behalf of its New York State Conservation Council....

867

Mrs. Stanley D. Higgins, on behalf of the League of Women Voters of
Lake Erie Basin...

872

Miss Gertrude G. Webster, director, the Conservation Forum of New
York State..

888

PART 3

WASHINGTON, D.C., JUNE 23, 1965

Allen Kneese, director, water resources program, Resources for the Future,
Inc..

Hayse H. Black, industrial wastes consultant, Robert A. Taft Sanitary
Engineering Center, U.S. Public Health Service, Cincinnati, Ohio.....
Robert A. Canham, assistant secretary and editor, Water Pollution Control
Federation, Washington, D.C...

WASHINGTON, D.C., JUNE 24, 1965

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912

961

975

J. W. Gulick, Deputy Maritime Administrator, Maritime Administration,
Department of Commerce.
William J. Allen, Chief, Division of Operations, U.S. Maritime Adminis-
tration...

985

989

A. J. Von Frank, Manufacturing Chemists Association, Inc., accompanied by Nelson J. Ehlers.

993

Bertram C. Raynes, chief engineer, Rand Development Corp., Cleveland, Ohio, accompanied by James H. Rand, president, Rand Development Corp...

1016

Louis S. Clapper, chief, Conservation Education Division, National Wildlife Federation.

1029

Daniel A. Poole, secretary, Wildlife Management Institute_
Philip A. Douglas, executive secretary, Sport Fishing Institute.
Charles H. Callison, assistant to the president, National Audubon Society.
Dr. Spencer M. Smith, secretary, Citizens Committee on Natural Re-

Allen, Ivan, Jr., mayor, city of Atlanta, Ga., accompanied by Robert
Morris, engineer, water pollution control, Atlanta

488

Allen, William G., Chief, Division of Operations, Maritime Administration,
Department of Commerce.

989

Ball, Richard F., chairman, Erie-Niagara Basin Board.

897

Barcus, Grant, chairman, Water Resources Committee, Kansas City,
Kans., Area Chamber of Commerce..

Baxter, Edward D., P.E., commissioner of public works, city of Buffalo,
N.Y

785

842

Baxter, Samuel L., water commissioner, city of Philadelphia, Pa............
Beck, Arthur N., technical secretary, Alabama Water Improvement
Commission..........

320

537

Bennett, R. S., general manager, Lackawanna Plant, Bethlehem Steel
Corp-

851

Black, Hayse H., industrial waste consultant, Robert A. Taft Sanitary
Engineering Center, Public Health Service, Cincinnati, Ohio..
Bowden, Frank J., Jr., executive director, Associated Petroleum Industries
of Pennsylvania.

961

392

Boyd, Richard M., chairman, Greater Portland (Maine) Regional Planning
Čommission..

213

Brown, Dr. John R., Jr., vice president in charge of research, Colgate-
Palmolive Co..

184

Budd, William E., manager of sanitary technology, Dorr-Oliver, Inc.,
Stamford, Conn..

1052

Bueltmen, Charles G., technical director, Soap & Detergent Association..
Buffalo Area Chamber of Commerce..

177

895

Bunz, John Henry, chairman, the Tonawandas Sportsmen's Club, North
Tonawanda, N.Y.: Telegram, dated June 11, 1965.

907

Burk, Marshall, executive secretary, National Resources Council of Maine. Burns, W. T., member, Industrial Waste Committee of California Manufacturers Association, accompanied by Robert Cramer_

283

655

Burton, Grant A., chairman, California State Water Pollution Control
Board, San Francisco Bay region___

625

Callison, Charles H., assistant to the president, National Audubon Society. 1037 Canham, Robert A., assistant secretary and editor, Water Pollution Control Federation, Washington, D.C..

975

Carey, Walter C., consulting engineer on river and water resources projects.

481