(e) The fee charged for admission to membership in the labor organization, and the regular monthly or other periodic dues charged each member of the labor organization;

(f) The fees and assessments not described in subsection (e) charged against members of the labor organization during each month of the six-month period immediately preceding the day on which the filing of such statement is provided for;

(g) The total cash receipts of the labor organization during the six-month period immediately preceding the day on which the filing of such statement is provided for

(1) from fees charged for admission to membership in the labor organization; (2) from regular monthly or other periodic dues charged members of the labor organization;

(3) from fees and assessments described in subsection (f); and

(4) from all other sources in such detail as the Secretary may by rules and regulations prescribe;

(h) The total expenditures, in such detail as the Secretary may by rules and regulations prescribe, of the labor organization during the 6-month period immediately preceding the day on which the filing of such statement is provided for;

(i) The annual salary of each officer of the labor organization, and all amounts, including salary, bonuses, and travel or other expenses, paid or payable to each such officer during the 6-month period immediately preceding the day on which the filing of such statement is provided for;

(j) All assets and liabilities of the labor organization, set forth in such detail as the Secretary may by rules and regulations prescribe, as of the close of the 6month period immediately preceding the day on which the filing of such statement is provided for; and

(k) In case there is any affiliated organization of such labor organization, the number of such affiliated organizations.

There appears the following:

The term "labor organization" as referred to in this bill, is to have the same meaning as under the National Labor Relations Act.

Under section 2 of that act there are the following definitions:

SEC. 2. When used in this act * * *

(2) The term "employer" includes any person acting in the interest of an employer, directly or indirectly, but shall not include the United States, or any State or political subdivision thereof, or any person subject to the Railway Labor Act, as amended from time to time, or any labor organization (other than when acting as an employer), or anyone acting in the capacity of officer or agent of such labor organization.

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(5) The term "labor organization" means any organization of any kind, or any agency or employee representation committee or plan, in which employees participate, and which exists for the purpose, in whole or in part, of dealing with employers concerning grievances, labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment, or conditions of work.

These two sections are read because it must be difficult to properly inperpret exactly what the present bill actually proposes to include. Railroad employees are not subject to the definition of "labor organization," under the provisions of the National Labor Relations Act. We are unable to determine whether it is intended that they shall be included under the provisions of bill H. R. 1483 or not. Because there are many members of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers who are in the employment of industrial plants as engineers on locomotives engaged in switching services at those plants, we must protest against the provisions on bill H. R. 1483, because of its effects on certain groups of our membership; and because of its unfair, unnecessary, and apparent attempt to deprive the membership and officers of labor organizations of privileges which other groups or organizations may be privileged to have.

We shall hope that the provisions of this bill may receive the unanimous refusal of the membership of this committee for any favorable consideration of its antilabor provisions.

We find nothing between the enacting clause and the final sentence of the bill that should receive approval.

This appears as an attempt to secure passage of what we must consider as class legislation of the most objectionable kind.

The provisions of this bill do not propose that there shall be the same demands made of "employers' associations" as are proposed for the "employee groups." There appear no proposals for demands that manufacturers' associations, commercial clubs, bar associations, medical associations, farmers' associations, church associations, cooperative associations, or similar groups shall be brought under the conditions proposed for labor organizations under this bill.

We protest against the provisions presented in this bill and against the unfair ideas proposed throughout the legislation.

Labor organizations are winning this war or these wars. It was through the cooperative assistance and efforts of American labor organizations that this Government was enabled to construct the necessary camps to train those who entered the armed forces of the Nation. It was through the work of labor organizations that trained help was secured to construct every kind of material or piece of armament that is being used with such success by the armed forces of our country and its allies. It is the cooperative efforts of railroad management and railroad employees that have provided for the armed forces of our Nation and for the industries and citizens of our Nation the greatest services ever known.

It should be known that on every battlefield there are the sons of these same labor organizations' members delivering death blows to the enemies of the Nation; and the recent results of the bond drives have proven the willingness of the labor organizations to contribute their earnings, as well as their efforts and their sons, toward the successful prosecution of the wars.

John Doe is a member of my organization and of all of the other labor organizations in the country. He has his own home, is a taxpayer, is raising a family, and he and his good wife are making every effort to provide their children with the training that may make them outstanding American citizens. It may be that John Doe and his wife and their immediate neighbors are members of the same church; it may be that they have the belief that some candidate for office will serve the country better than some other candidate for the same office. John Doe is an officer of my organization and he joins with his neighbors, who may also be members of my organization, in efforts to assist their choice of candidates. They contribute of their efforts, of some of their time. They may make monetary contributions toward the payment of advertising to assist their choice of candidates. They may contribute the use of their automobile in order to assist their choice of candidates. Again, it may be possible that they have little choice as between candidates, but they do have a principle or proposal presented that they may either favor or desire to oppose and this is to be voted upon at the election. Is it to be made a part of American democracy that their efforts shall be made unlawful and that they shall be made subject to fines such as are provided for in this bill?

We consider such proposals as un-American, as representative of the opposite of any real statesmanship; and we shall hope the committee may agree with such a position.

There can be no limitation to what may be included under the term "contribution." There can be no limitation as to what the terms of this legislation may be interpreted to include. We consider it wrong in principle and unfair to the producers of the Nation in its ideas and provisions.

There has recently been considerable reference made to some apparent lack of knowledge of the history of our Nation. Those of us who were privileged to witness the conditions experienced during what has been referred to as "the noble experiment" were compelled to realize that a law which is especially objectionable to the privileges of the citizens of our country will be found difficult of perfect administration.

The members of labor organizations are law-abiding citizens. However, since the days in which the former president of the American Federation of Labor proposed that labor organizations "should support their friends and oppose the enemies of labor," the membership of most labor organizations have endeavored to follow that suggestion. It is a part of the democratic way of life in the United States; it is one of the most important parts of their franchise as citizens.

We are interested in the prosecution of the present wars. We believe that efforts to divide the people are not productive of the best cooperative results. We believe that there should be as nearly perfect cooperation between management and labor as our economic conditions may make possible. We believe that the Congress may well refuse any favorable consideration to any and all such proposals as are presented in the present bill. We shall hope for your assistance in our efforts to defeat such legislation, and we shall thank you for that assistance.

Mr. SCANLON. Have you any questions, Mr. Landis?

Mr. LANDIS. Yes. I would like for him to comment on this quotation. This is quoting from Madam Perkins:

The public expects the officers of trade-unions to be chosen by the membership in the fairest and most open way. For the most part the public believes that those unions have been wise who have by their own bylaws required American citizenship for all officers.

That was a quotation from a speech made by. Madam Perkins in Seattle, Wash., at the A. F. of L. convention on October 7, 1942.

Mr. CORBETT. The Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers, as I previously stated, is the oldest of the railroad labor organizations. It was handling its affairs successfully before the author of that statement was born, and over a period of 80 years it has been quite successful in handling its affairs without much trouble to the Government, with perfect success for its own members, we believe, and to society in general.

As to the attitude toward that, we believe that we have followed that. We believe we adopted it long before it was enunciated by the good Secretary. Our membership is elected at conventions. There are delegates representing every division of the organization in the United States and Canada. They vote with a written ballot the choice that they desire to have filled-the different officers.

I see no criticism as to what the Secretary has said as to the methods they use, and I cannot see why it is presented.

Mr. LANDIS. She said that there should be American citizenship required for all officers. I do not know whether they are in your organization. Some of the officers of the railroad organizations are not American citizens; is that true?

Mr. CORBETT. If you refer to and restrict the term "American" to a citizen of the United States, you are correct, but American railroads include the railroads of the United States and Canada.

Mr. LANDIS. Well, that may be. That is subject to interpretation, probably. But would you object to that bill, H. R. 804, if we included the United States, Mexico, and Canada?

Mr. CORBETT. I see no reason for having that bill adopted. It is a restrictive piece of legislation in which I, with my possibly limited amount of information, can see nothing but controversy to result if it is adopted. I heard your statement with regard to that. You have not expressed it on this bill, but I have heard nothing read into the records here that would express any good reason why it should be a part of the laws of our Nation.

Now, each and all of us who have appeared here in opposition to it have expressed our reasons for its not becoming part of our laws.

Mr. LANDIS. I realize that the railroads have a different angle, especially with the Canadians. At one time I had a bill in to prohibit subversive individuals from representing labor unions, and at that time somebody wanted to include in the bill American citizenship, and it was due to the Canadians up along the border between the United States and Canada and all the railroad organizations that it. was left out of that bill.

Mr. CORBETT. But you would not propose that an American citizen or a citizen of the United States should not enjoy the privilege of appearing on the board of directors of some Canadian

Mr. LANDIS. No; that is right. I agree with you there. I think we have some international unions with Mexico included. Canadians are included in the international unions. I was a member of the mine rescue team that went on a first-aid meet in Denver, Colo., and there was an international first-aid meet with the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

Of course, I was not the author of that bill, but I believe the idea was to deal with subversive individuals or individuals who were trying to gain the leadership of labor unions-those who believed in the overthrow of the United States Government.

Mr. CORBETT. Well, Congressman, I have been associated with labor men from the time I was 12 years old. I have had a rather active life. I have found none of those from Canada with whom I have become associated who would not compare quite favorably with those from any other nation.

Mr. LANDIS. I agree with that statement.

Mr. CORBETT. Now, will you agree to this: that at the present time the railroads are doing the greatest, the biggest, and the best service in transportation that has ever been known in the history of the world?

Mr. LANDIS. I agree with that statement. I think they have done a real job.

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Mr. CORBETT. Then why throw something like this at the men who are handling the transportation service?

Mr. LANDIS. I won't make a statement on H. R. 804, but I will on H. R. 1483, the provision that deals with financial statements. I imagine your organization is like a lot of other organizations. Your records are open and aboveboard. They are not secret.

Mr. CORBETT. Over a period of 40 years I have owned a few shares of stock, and do now, in different corporations. Over a period of 40 years I have paid dues into labor organizations. There has been no time when any individual corporation has sent me the same reports as have the secretaries of my organization.

I get a periodical report possibly every 6 months or every year from the corporations when they are going to hold an annual election. My organization furnishes every single division and every subordinate office in the United States and Canada with a periodical statement once each month, in which there is a review of the activities of the month. That review covers the activities of every one of the offices such as I fill or represent. It tells the different railroads on which those officers have been assigned to work, even to half-day assignments. It reports every penny that was paid in as what we refer to as grand dues, which is paid into the headquarters office.

My own division-which is up in Wisconsin-from the time it was organized to the present time has met in a hall that was rented from the owners, the Odd Fellows organization. We meet there every 2 weeks. We pay rent to the Odd Fellows.

A local chairman is the man who adjusts the differences between the railroad and the man who may work in that particular territory. If it becomes necessary for that man to lose a trip on that railroad, they pay him for the loss of his time. Now, to my knowledge, that has been going on for 40 years. What criticism have you on it?

Mr. LANDIS. I have no criticism of that, except this. The point I want to make is that if all labor unions, including the railroad organizations, make their reports open to the public, a check could be made of the outlawed unions by information from the financial reports. We have some labor organizations and unions and locals that have been charging high initiation fees and high dues.

It has been stated to me many times by the rank and file that they have stood up in meetings and asked for a financial report, and they have been shouted down.

I do not see how the good unions have anything to fear by having those other unions make a financial report to the Secretary of Labor. Mr. CORBETT. Why, if you have that feeling, do you introduce this legislation and make every effort to secure its passage?

Mr. LANDIS. I want every union to report. If I can get information from the railroads, they have done their part. They are open and aboveboard. But we have some unions that do not make financial reports, and they should be made, so that we can find out the labor turn-over to get at those whom I call radical leaders trying to "high jack" the members in the war plants.

Mr. CORBETT. If you are going to do that, suppose we start with the oldest fraternal organization. I do not know what is the oldest of the fraternal organizations. It may be the group that I just referred to. It may be the Odd Fellows. It may be the Masons. It may