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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS

FOR 1995

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED THIRD CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS

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DELACROIX DAVIS III, RICHARD E. EFFORD, CHERYL L. SMITH, and LINDA J. MUIR,

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ISBN 0-16-044443-8

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin, Chairman

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi,

Vice Chairman

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
TOM BEVILL, Alabama

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
CHARLES WILSON, Texas
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California
VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia

JIM CHAPMAN, Texas

MARCY KAPTUR, Ohio
DAVID E. SKAGGS, Colorado

DAVID E. PRICE, North Carolina
NANCY PELOSI, California

PETER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana

THOMAS M. FOGLIETTA, Pennsylvania ESTEBAN EDWARD TORRES, California GEORGE (BUDDY) DARDEN, Georgia

NITA M. LOWEY, New York

RAY THORNTON, Arkansas

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JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
JERRY LEWIS, California

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
JOE SKEEN, New Mexico
FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
TOM DELAY, Texas

JIM KOLBE, Arizona

DEAN A. GALLO, New Jersey

BARBARA F. VUCANOVICH, Nevada
JIM LIGHTFOOT, Iowa

RON PACKARD, California
SONNY CALLAHAN, Alabama

HELEN DELICH BENTLEY, Maryland
JAMES T. WALSH, New York

CHARLES H. TAYLOR, North Carolina
DAVID L. HOBSON, Ohio

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma'
HENRY BONILLA, Texas

JOSÉ E. SERRANO, New York

ROSA L. DELAURO, Connecticut

JAMES P. MORAN, Virginia

DOUGLAS "PETE" PETERSON, Florida

JOHN W. OLVER, Massachusetts

ED PASTOR, Arizona

CARRIE P. MEEK, Florida

FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN, Clerk and Staff Director

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TESTIMONY OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHER INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS

THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 1994.

WITNESS

HON. BART GORDON, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF TENNESSEE

Mr. CARR. Welcome. We will open our hearing. Today, we are delighted to have many of our good friends with us. This is going to be a hearing primarily concentrating on the testimony of our friends and colleagues in the Congress, and we have a very ambitious schedule today. I think if we go the whole day, we are going to be here until late this afternoon. And in the interest of time, why don't those Members present have a seat at the table.

We are not going to have any great formality here, and when you have given your testimony, if there are no questions and we move on to someone else's testimony, you are free to leave.

We will keep rotating, so that we do not spend a lot of time waiting for people to come to the table. We will just keep going.

First on my list is my good friend and colleague from Tennessee, Bart Gordon.

Welcome.

Do you have a prepared statement?

Mr. GORDON. Yes.

Mr. CARR. We will submit that for the record and invite you to just give us the highlights.

Mr. GORDON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I hope I am first on your list, but I do thank you for your past courtesies, this committee's courtesies and the staff. And also, let me again congratulate you I think on the new thoughtful criteria that you are placing on us to present to you I think better justification for these projects.

To reciprocate for that, I will be brief. I have submitted my testimony. I have also submitted to the committee the investment criteria that is suggested as well as a variety of maps and the feasibility studies.

I am here on three projects; all of which have also gone before the authorizing committee, two of which are the second phases of ISTEA previous-authorized projects.

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