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United States. Congress. House. Committee on
Subcommittee on Postsecondary Education.

Education and LA..

REAUTHORIZATION OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION ACT

AND RELATED MEASURES

Part 6

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON
POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SIXTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

HEARINGS HELD IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

ON MAY 30, 31, JUNE 5, 7, 19, AUGUST 1, AND 2, 1979

Printed for the use of the Committee on Education and Labor

47-953 O

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1979

KF2T £369 1979 pt. 6

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR

CARL D. PERKINS, Kentucky, Chairman

FRANK THOMPSON, JR., New Jersey
JOHN BRADEMAS, Indiana
AUGUSTUS F. HAWKINS, California
WILLIAM D. FORD, Michigan
PHILLIP BURTON, California
JOSEPH M. GAYDOS, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM (Bill) CLAY, Missouri
MARIO BIAGGI, New York
IKE ANDREWS, North Carolina
PAUL SIMON, Illinois

EDWARD P. BEARD, Rhode Island
GEORGE MILLER, California
MICHAEL O. MYERS, Pennsylvania
AUSTIN J. MURPHY, Pennsylvania
TED WEISS, New York

BALTASAR CORRADA, Puerto Rico
DALE E. KILDEE, Michigan

PETER A. PEYSER, New York

EDWARD J. STACK, Florida

PAT WILLIAMS, Montana

WILLIAM R. RATCHFORD, Connecticut

RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado

DON BAILEY, Pennsylvania

JOHN M. ASHBROOK, Ohio
JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois
JOHN H. BUCHANAN, JR., Alabama
JAMES M. JEFFORDS, Vermont
WILLIAM F. GOODLING, Pennsylvania
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma

E. THOMAS COLEMAN, Missouri
KEN KRAMER, Colorado
ARLEN ERDAHL, Minnesota
THOMAS J. TAUKE, Iowa
DANIEL B. CRANE, Illinois
JON HINSON, Mississippi
THOMAS E. PETRI, Wisconsin

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1096

Dickinson, Ms. Eileen, president, New York State Higher Education Serv-
ices Corp

403

Dresch, Stephen, chairman, Institute for Demographic and Economic Stud-
ies, Inc., New Haven, Conn

648

Dunlap, Chancellor E. T., chairman of the board, Student Loan Marketing
Association, Washington, D.C.

688

Fenwick, Hon. Millicent, a Representative in Congress from the State of
New Jersey

1019

Fitt, Alfred, Congressional Budget Office...

2

Fox, Edward A., president and chief executive officer, Student Loan
Marketing Association

688, 1051

Fritz, Arthur, director of financial aid, Syracuse University, representing
the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators

Gibson, Jerry, consortium on financing higher education

Gibson, R. Jerrold, director of fiscal services, Harvard University.

Ginsberg, Stu, American Student Dental Association......

142

Laird, David, deputy executive director, Minnesota Commission on Higher
Education, State Higher Education Executive Offices

Lancaster, Gregory, vice president, Security Pacific National Bank, Los

Angeles, Calif.

Ihlanfeldt, William, vice president for institutional relations, Northwest-
ern University, Consortium on Financing Higher Education

Kendis, Kurt L., policy analyst, University of Pennsylvania

Kennedy, Hon. Edward M., a U.S. Senator from the State of Massachusetts,

accompanied by Jay Urwitz, legislative assistant to Senator Kennedy 1100

Kocian, Patrick W., national director, Coalition of Independent College and
University Students, Washington, D.C.........

930

65, 808

436

Statement of-Continued

Maguire, Hon. Andrew, a Representative in Congress from the State of
New Jersey

Page

618

Martin, Dallas, executive director, National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators

1056

Matsler, Dr. Franklin G., executive director, Board of Regents of State
Colleges, Springfield, Ill.

Packer, Joel, legislative director, United States Student Association (USSA)

854

40, 753, 1042

Paratore, Matthew R., executive secretary, International Liaison, Inc., U.S.
Catholic Coordinating Center for Lay Volunteer Ministries, Washington,
D.C., accompanied by Stephen Kurzman, counsel, Nixon, Hargrave,
Devans & Doyle; and Father David J. Hinchen, director, Jesuit Volun-
teer Corps East

Piana, Edward, executive vice president, Baybanks Norfolk County Trust
Co., Dedham, Mass

Ruud, Millard H., executive director, Association of American Law Schools,
Washington, D.C., accompanied by John R. Kramer, professor and as-
sistant dean, American Law Schools and the Law School Admission
Council....

Saunders, Charles, vice president for government affairs, American Coun-
cil on Education

Smith, Marshall (Mike), Assistant Commissioner for Policy Studies, Office
of Education, Department of Health, Education, and Welfare
Smith, Hon. Neal, a Representative in Congress from the State of Iowa
Weatherford, Willis D., president, Berea College representing the National
Association of Independent Colleges and Universities.....
Wennerdahl, Ms. Carol, chairman, legislative committee, National Council
of Higher Education Loan Programs, accompanied by Helge Holst of
Massachusetts and Jay Evans of Pennsylvania

Wickert, John D., president, Dauphin Deposit Bank & Trust Co., Harris-
burg, Pa., appearing for American Banking Association.

Prepared statements, letters, supplemental materials, et cetera

157

1065

119

910

706

530

977

397

478

Avancena, Bobbi, legislative assistant to Congressman Peter Peyser, statement of

663

Bohen, Frederick, M., Assistant Secretary for Management and Budget,
Department of Health, Education, and Welfare:

Comparative summary of costs and program data for the administra-
tion's student loan proposals

1034

1032

Testimony of

Brademas, Hon. John, a Representative in Congress from the State of Indiana, NDSL default rate, from NASFAA newsletter, March 19, 1979.

Bruce, Harry W., Jr., D.D.S., executive director, American Association of
Dental Schools, Washington, D.C., letter to Chairman Ford, dated June 8,
1979.

Chisick, Michael C., president and chairman, board of directors, American
Student Dental Association:

"Committee Chairman's Report," dated January 1979

"HEAL and Potential Repayment Through the National Health Serv-
ice Corps," article entitled

997

379

110

116

"HEAL Takes a Beating," article from the New Dentist, January 1979.
Letter to "Letters Editor, Newsweek," dated March 1979

101

113

Memorandum to members of the Subcommittee on Health, U.S. Con-
gress, dated April 1979.

115

"Rx for Lower Doctors' Bills," article from Newsweek dated March
1979

112

Statement of.

89

"U.S. Dental Tuitions Rise 142 percent in 6 Years," article from
Bulletin of Dental Education, May 1979

100

Coalition of Independent College and University Students, statement
of

1091, 1152

Council of Chief State School Officers, statement of..

Crowley, John C., director, Federal Relations for Science Research, Association of American Universities:

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