Q. Can you tell me how many milk inspectors there are for the whole city? A. About seven.

Q. Does the bulk of the milk come in on that side? A. No, sir; but we have had to divide the city up; before the present law each inspector had a district to himself.

Q. The time to stop the sale of milk is while it is still in the cans? A. Before it reaches the customer; yes sir.

Q. That requires you to be on hand in the morning? A. Yes, sir.

Q. If it gets beyond that point it is hard to get it? A. Yes, sir; unless you intercept the retail wagon.

Q. You would have to stop the wagon on the street? A. Yes, sir; still that is done.

Q. And you two gentlemen alone have been inspecting for that whole time? A. Yes, sir.

Q. How often, as a matter of fact, has Dr. Martin inspected in your district? A. I do not know that he has made any lactometer inspections; I know that he has on two or three occasions during the past winter, gone out with the whole corps of inspectors Saturday night, or something of that kind and exercised general supervision over the work done.

Q. Kind of a field day? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Kind of a maneuver? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Dr. Martin is the chemist, is he not? A. Yes, sir.

Q. He is kept busy analyzing the samples which you gentlemen send in? A. No, sir; that is done by the assistant chemist.

Q. He superintends that work? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Dr. Martin's interference has not been very frequent; now about these, I suppose — how many special inspectors have been sent out to look after you? A. I do not know that there has been any.

Q. And you have been on the force how long? A. Since the seventh of July, I believe I was appointed.

Q. If you had been disposed to omit a careful inspection of any questionable milk, that neglect on your part would not have been detected by any officer from Dr. Martin nor the supervising inspector since last July,? A. No, sir; not as far as I know.

Mr. Prentice.— It would be in his reports, Mr. Chairman.

Q. But what I meant was, and I do not want to take an unfair advantage of the witness, that in case you had extended, in pursuance of any corrupt or incorrupt dealings, any leniency to a dealer, as the facts have actually transpired; it would have escaped detection since last July, as far as this superintendency is concerned? A. Certainly

Q About what is the value; can you tell rae what is the gross value of the trade of Macomber, for instance? A. I think his sales are about 1,200 quarts a day.

Q. I thought it was something like 3,000? A. Well, it may be, I do not remember exactly; we will assume if they have stated 3,000 quarts; we will take that as a basis; I suppose the average sales are five and a half and six cents.

Q. Is the purchase price? A. I think they have to pay about three cents at the creameries.

Q. Then they pay transportation? A. Yes, sir.

By Senator Mcnaughton:

Q. Do you know the name of the bartender who served at the Golden Swan? A. No, sir; I do not.

Q. Was he the regular bartender? A. I do not know, sir.

Mr. Prentice.—If the chairman please, the president of the board of health is here to answer the question whether any charges have been presented against the inspectors, or whether this matter has been called to his attention.

Mr. Boardman.— I thought he would like to hear Dr. Levings' statement on the stand.

Senator Fassett.—The committee would be willing and glad to hear.

Allen G. Levinos, being duly sworn, testified as follows:

Q. Doctor, you have been here during the time that Dr. Osborn was being examined, have you not? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Would your recollection of the occurrences, as far as he testified to what occurred when you and he was present, agree with his statement? A Exactly, sir.

Q. To state what he said in substance; he said that you had an interview with Intemann at a saloon known as the Golden Swan? A. Yes, sir.

Q. That is correct? A. Yes, sir.

Q. That Intemann was intoxicated? A. He was under the influence of liquor; yes, sir.

Q. You may state the story in your own way; describe the first interview you had with him; I understand you had no acquaintance with hiiu before that? A. No, sir; I knew Mr. Intemann before; before Dr. Osborn and I went to investigate together; I had been in his place and seen Mr. Houston.

Q. You had no acquaintance with Intemann? A. No, sir.

Q. You performed your duty at his place? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Then what happened? A. After the inspection had been made, Dr. Osborn and myself started down, it being rather cold, we started to get something to drink to warm us up; on our way down, we probably got down about a half a block, in front of a bookstore, when Mr. Intemann hailed us and wanted to know if we would go across the street with him and take a drink; that was our purpose to get a drink, and so he joined us and went along; while in the place —

Q. Who paid for the drinks? A. I paid for the drinks; I believe I had a drink and Intemann and Dr. Osborn had a drink; the conversation came up something about Mr. Houston's not knowing how to run the business right, and he probably would see us if Mr. Intemann would talk to us sometime; so Mr. Intemann made the proposition that we should stay away from his place, and wanted to know, in substance, what it would be worth; neither one of us paid any attention; we looked at it in surprise, it being the first time anything large had been offered.

Q. Nothing had been offered up to that time? A. No, sir; he wanted to give us a hundred dollars apiece, and he wanted a hundred dollars himself, and that he would represent to Dr. Derling—

Senator Fassett.— Can't you tell us just exactly how that conversation developed?

Q. Repeat the conversation? A. I think there were four or five people in the place including the bartender; the bartender was behind the bar, and Mr. Intemann stood on the right of Dr. Osborn, Dr. Osborn stood next, and I on the left of Dr. Osborn; Dr. Osborn stood in the center, and Mr. Intemann on one side and I on the other.

Q. Now, state the talk? A. Mr. Intemann knowing the trouble the board of health had had with the Lake Milk Company, made a statement that they did not want to get into any more trouble, and that he would like to have it fixed up, or words to that effect; I can not give you the exact conversation, but words to that effect; that he would like to have things fixed, and wanted to know if we would not square up for a hundred dollars apiece to stay away for three months; I believe Dr. Osborn then ordered the cigars.

Q. Did he not say anything to this proposition; didn't Osborn say anything? A. Didn't pay any attention to it until it was said again.

Q. When it was repeated then, did anybody say anything? A. The best of my recollection is Dr. Osborn said, "We will think about it," and the matter was dropped and we went out.

Q. Did you say anything? A. No, sir; I did not say anything.

Q. But you left him on that occasion under the impression that if he could get the money the arrangement could be made? A. Yes, Q. And did it on purpose? A. He did it on purpose.

Q. At that time you had no instructions from anybody? A. No, sir.

Q. How long was it before you got instructions from anybody? A. That was January eleventh in the morning; — the following Monday I think, or Saturday.

Q. How many days was it after that proposition was made before yon reported it? A. Two or three.

Q. Then if Dr. Osborn testified on the stand that it was on the following morning, he was in error?

Mr. Pbentice.— He did not testify so, if you please, he said there was an interval. He said the board of health meeting had occurred a long while.

Q. How many days afterwards was it that you reported it, and what made you report it? A. Because I thought it was an attempt to bribe.

Q. Whom did you report it to? A. I think it was Mr. Martin, in person or if not, then to Mr. Beebe, the assistant chemist, either one or the other.

Q. Can't you remember which one it was? A. I think it was Dr Martin.

Q. Did you go there with Dr. Osborn? A. I went there with Dr Osborn or Dr. Osborn met me at my house.

Q. Did you tell the doctor all about it, Dr. Martin? A. Yes, sir; I think it was Dr. Martin; I am pretty positive of it.

Q. Will you swear it was Dr. Martin? A. No; sir; nor I will not swear it was not, but the best of my recollection is it was Dr. Martin that Dr. Osborn told it to.

Q. Dr. Osborn told it and you listened? A. Yes, sir.

Q. State exactly what Dr. Martin said to you, if it was Dr. Martin, and Dr. Beebe, if it was Dr. Beebe; what was it exactly that was said? A. The orders were —

Q. State what he said, repeat his language as nearly as you can? A. Mr. Martin told us to not encourage Mr. Intemann if we saw him again, if he made any advances to us —

Q. Not to encourage him? A. Not to encourage him or to discourage him, but to let matters go on as they were; we did not see anything of Mr. Intemann after that until —

Q. Was that all Martin said to you? A. Well, that was the substance of the language in reference to Mr. Intemann; of course we had our orders for a week's work to do, but in this particular case that was about the substance of it.

Q. That was all he said in substance about Intemann? A. Yes, sir.

Q. And he did not say anything about indicting him for bribery? A. Not at that time.

Q. Did he not say anything about leading him into a trap? A. Not at that time.

Q. He said to neither discourage him or encourage him? A. That is the whole gist and meaning of the whole thing about it.

Q. When was the next time you met Intemann? A. I did not see Intemann again until the early morning of January twenty-ninth.

Q. OWhat saloon were you in then? A. This was no saloon; this was an early morning inspection at 3 o'clock, 3 or half-past 3 o'clock; we inspected the milk at Mr. Intemann's place.

Q. How long was that after the first visit? A. From the eleventh to the twenty-ninth.

Q. You inspected the milk, did you? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did you find anything wrong? A. Yes, sir.

Q. And you left a sample? A. Left three samples with Mr. Intemann.

Q. And took away the others? A. That is, Dr. Osborn did.

Q. You took off the other samples for the department? A. Dr. Osborn took the samples; they were taken home to his house, I believe.

Q. Do you know whether they were sent to the department? A. I know that the milk went down to the laboratory and was delivered to the chemist.

Q. Was Intemann there then? A. Intemann came around the corner shortly after the inspection had been made.

Q. Was he intoxicated then? A. He did not appear to be.

Q. You were on your way to a saloon then? A. No sir; I was not.

Q. Did you go to one? A. I went to one after the inspection was entirely made.

Q. Were you on your way to the saloon then? A. We were on the way to Earle's Hotel, which is an all-night restaurant; when we got there the restaurant was closed, I think; there is a restaurant in the rear and a saloon in front.

Q. Did Intemann invite you to drink then? A. I had a friend witl. me, or rather met a friend of Macomber's, and he was with us. it

Q. Who was he? A. William Heaton, a commercial traveler.

Q. Had he ever met Intemann before? A. Never to my knowled

Q. Who paid for the drinks at this hotel? A. Mr. Heaton. & if

Q. Did he drink with you? A. Yes, sir. Yes,

Q. At Heaton's request? A. A21t Heaton's request.