the American way under our great constitutional form of government You will have to excuse me, gentlemen. I just wanted to say what Mr. THOMAS. It was very helpful. We are delighted to have your comments. Gentlemen, we thank you very much for the privilege and pleasure (Discussion off the record.) Mr. THOMAS. The committee will meet in the morning at 10 o'clock. TUESDAY, AUGUST 8, 1961. ROBERT H. MOORE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WAYNE E. HOWARD, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO DIRECTOR Mr. THOMAS. We have with us this morning the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service. It is a pleasure to welcome you here today, gentlemen. You are requesting a supplemental appropriation for "Salaries and expenses" in the amount of $190,000 as contained in House Document No. 210. GENERAL STATEMENT Mr. Simkin, have you or any of your associates a statement for us? Mr. SIMKIN. We have no prepared statement other than the statement which you have before you which covers the supplement rather adequately, we think. As you gentlemen all know, we are the independent agency which has responsibility for mediation of labor disputes in all industries other railroads and airlines. This supplement is solely related to a new task which we have undertaken in connection with the President's Executive order on missile sites. Under that Executive order, one of the main objectives is to settle disputes on the missile sites on a local basis. There is a commission set up here in Washington, of which I happen to be vice chairman, to which disputes can be referred, but we are making every effort to settle the matters locally. Mr. THOMAS. It seems you have done better than a fair job, too. Mr. SIMKIN. It has required additional assignments from our staff. We have a total of 30 out of approximately 200 mediators assigned to these missile sites. Two assignments we contemplate will be of a full-time character in the foreseeable future, at Canaveral and at Vandenberg. At the other 28 sites our mediators will give priority to the missile work but, in addition to that, will do cther work. We anticipate and estimate, to the best of our ability, that this missile work will ake the equivalent of 16 full-time men. In our regular budget and before the establishment of the commission we had been doing a more limited amount of work on the missile sites which we estimated at approximately the equivalent of four full-time men. We are therefore requesting in this supplement 13 mediator positions, 1 in the national office, 12 in the field. The national office position is a coordinator position, and then the equivalent of 12 full-time positions in the field, plus 3 secretarial. There are related costs in addition to salaries, transportation, and per diem, which will be increased somewhat in addition to the extra manning. We feel this is an extremely important project, and it is one which was added to our work after our regular budget was submitted. Mr. THOMAS. This was created by Executive order. Mr. SIMKIN. That is correct. Mr. THOMAS. You are seeking 14 new jobs at a cost of $132,000. The other objects are $58,000. The total request is $190,000. Is that correct? Mr. SIMKIN. That is correct, sir. NUMBER OF PERSONNEL Mr. THOMAS. Throughout the program on a regular basis you require about 30 people. Is that correct? Mr. SIMKIN. That is correct. We have 30 men assigned. Mr. THOMAS. Their specific duties will be to work with the local organizations. They will be mediators in truth and in fact and they will work with the local organizations, labor and management, at the missile sites. MISSILE SITES How many missile sites are there? Mr. SIMKIN. Thirty. Mr. THOMAS. The list is in the record. We shall insert in the record the list of missile sites. (The list referred to follows:) MISSILE SITES Plattsburgh Missile Base, Plattsburgh, Patrick AFB, Cape Canaveral, Fla. Edwards AFB, Muroc Desert, Calif. Pacific Missile Range, Point Arguello, Fairchild AFB, Spokane, Wash. Wallops Island Station, Wallops Island, Walker AFB, Roswell, N. Mex. Dyess AFB, Abilene, Tex. Va. Eglin AFB, Fla. Altus AFB, Altus, Okla. McConnell AFB, Wichita, Kans. Little Rock AFB, Little Rock, Ark. Lowry AFB, Denver, Colo. Mr. SIMKIN. On pages 3 and 4 of the submission there are listed 29 specific sites. Since this list was prepared another has been added. Mr. THOMAS. New York, Florida, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska-yes, I count 29. Mr. SIMKIN. There should be 30. Frenchmen's Flat is not listed here, sir. JUSTIFICATION OF THE ESTIMATES Mr. THOMAS. Insert page 16 in the record as well. (Page 16 referred to follows:) SCHEDULE ON SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS AND REVISED ESTIMATES 10. Estimated supplemental included in latest budget...- 11. Date needed: For obligation, July 24, 1961; for expenditure, Aug. 14, 1961. 12. Estimated expenditures from supplemental: In current fiscal year.. In next fiscal year-- After next fiscal year___. Total---- 13. Actual obligations last 3 months: (not applicable) In budget Mr. THOMAS. Where do you have the complete breakdown? 4,578 4,388 190 Revised $180 10 190 Mr. THOMAS. We shall insert pages 6, 7 and 8 in the record at this point. 12. Personnel benefits ($9,600): All of the items included in this object Total 21. Travel and transportation of persons ($28,000): Requirements of 23. Rent, communications, and utilities ($15,000): Local and long- 25. Other contractual services-Other Government agencies ($6,000): Security investigations for the 16 positions, and other incidental expenses 26. Supplies and materials ($500): Desk top supplies for new positions 31. Equipment ($4,500): Furniture and equipment for positions-- Grand total___. 13, 035 132, 705 7,305 125, 400 8, 150 400 1,050 9, 600 28, 000 1,000 15,000 6, 000 500 4, 500 190, 000 TYPE OF PERSONNEL NEEDED Mr. THOMAS. What do the green sheets reflect regarding the type of personnel you are getting? You have one deputy director, assistant deputy directors, apparently 18's and 17's. How many 16's do you have here? Are there six 16's? Then you have ten 15's. This is the entire 30? Mr. SIMKIN. This is the entire staff, Mr. Chairman. Mr. THOMAS. You are right. What type of personnel is connected with the supplement? Mr. SIMKIN. Most of these mediators Mr. THOMAS. You have three GS-5's. Mr. MOORE. There is one 14. There are twelve 12's, and three 5's. Mг. THOMAS. Can you get the type of people you need at grade 12? Mr. SIMKIN. The men we have on these missile sites are almost without exception grade 14's, but we are hiring new men whom we will assign to the other work. We will hire new men which we will assign to the regular work. We will hire the new men at 12. For the missile site work we are assigning our older and more experienced men. |