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UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 12625

ADMINISTRATION PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE FEDERAL

UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION STATUTES

OCTOBER 1, 2, 3, 6, AND 7, 1969

Printed for the use of the Committee on Ways and Means

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1969

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COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS

WILBUR D. MILLS, Arkansas, Chairman HALE BOGGS, Louisiana

JOHN W. BYRNES, Wisconsin JOHN C. WATTS, Kentucky

JAMES B. UTT, California AL ULLMAN, Oregon

JACKSON E. BETTS, Ohio JAMES A. BURKE, Massachusetts

HERMAN T. SCHNEEBELI, Pennsylvania MARTHA W. GRIFFITHS, Michigan

HAROLD R. COLLIER, Illinois DAN ROSTENKOWSKI, Illinois

JOEL T. BROYHILL, Virginia PHIL M. LANDRUM, Georgia

BARBER B. CONABLE, JR., New York CHARLES A, VANIK, Ohio

GEORGE BUSH, Texas RICHARD H. FULTON, Tennessee

ROGERS C. B. MORTON, Maryland JACOB H, GILBERT, New York

CHARLES E. CHAMBERLAIN, Michigan
OMAR BURLESON, Texas
JAMES C. CORMAN, California
WILLIAM J. GREEN, Pennsylvania
SAM M. GIBBONS, Florida

JOHN M. MARTIN, Jr., Chief Counsel
J. P. BAKER, A88istant Chief Counsel
RICHARD C. WILBUR, Minority Counsel

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CONTENTS

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ORAL STATEMENTS BY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS

Labor, Department of:

Hon. George P. Shultz, Secretary--

Hon. Arnold R. Weber, Assistant Secretary for Manpower--

Treasury, Department of the, Hon. Murray L. Weidenbaum, Assistant

Secretary for Economic Policy -

Commerce, Department of, Hon. Walter H. Hamilton, Deputy Assistant

Secretary for Domestic Policy----

ORAL STATEMENTS BY PUBLIC WITNESSES

Actors' Equity Association:

Helene Tetrault, business representative in charge of unemployment

insurance matters--

Jack Golodner, director of Government relations.

American Farm Bureau Federation, Matt Triggs, assistant legislative

director.--

American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations:

Clinton M. Fair, legislative representative-

James O'Brien, social security department.

American Retail Federation, R. T. Kilbride.-
Beideman, Mrs. Geraldine M., research director, California Employers

Research Council..
Brockway, Richard C., New York, N.Y.
Brown, William R., secretary, social security committee and associate

research director, Council of State Chambers of Commerce -
Burley, Lawrence A., in behalf of Wisconsin Industry, Labor, and Human

Relations Commission (administrator, Unemployment Compensation

Division, Department of Industry, Labor, and Human Relations)---
California Employers Research Council, Mrs. Geraldine M. Beideman,

research director..

Chamber of Commerce of the United States:

Russell Hibbard.

William P. McHenry, Jr., secretary, unemployment compensation

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Commerce & Industry Association of New York, Mahlon Z. Eubank,

director, social insurance department -
Conference of State Manufacturer Associations, C. Weber Tuley-
Council of State Chambers of Commerce:

Paul P. Henkel, chairman, social security committee..
William R. Brown, secretary, social security committee and associate

research director..
Eubank, Mahlon Z., director, social insurance department, Commerce &

Industry Association of New York.--
Fair, Clinton M., legislative representative, American Federation of Labor

& Congress of Industrial Organizations-

Golodner, Jack, director of Government relations, Actors' Equity Associa-

tion.

Graham, Harry L., legislative representative, National Farmers Organiza-

tion...

Gray, L. W., vice president, Texas Manufacturers Association.

Gulan, Jerome, legislative director, National Federation of Independent

Business.

Harding, Curtis, in behalf of Interstate Conference of Employment Security

Agencies (administrator, Utah Department of Employment Security)--

Henkel, Paul P., chairman, Social Security Committee, Council of State

Chambers of Commerce

Hibbard, Russell, in behalf of the Chamber of Commerce of the United

States...

Interstate Conference of Employment Security Agencies:

George J. Vavoulis, president (commissioner, Minnesota Department

of Employment Security).

Curtis Harding (administrator, Utah Department of Employment Se-

curity)

Henry Rothell (assistant administrator, Texas Employment Com-

mission).

Jackson, Donald W., in behalf of Tennessee Taxpayers Association and

National Taxpayers Conference.

Kaiser Foundation Health Plan:

Gibson Kingren, Government relations representative.

Michael Parker, consultant..

Kilbride, R. T., in behalf of the American Retail Federation..

Kingren, Gibson, Government relations representative, Kaiser Foundation

Health Plan..

Kruger, Dr. Daniel H., School of Labor and Industrial Relations, Michi-

gan State University-.

Leffler, Marvin, chairman of the board, National Council of Salesmen's

Organizations-

Lumb, H. C., chairman, employee benefits committee, National Association

of Manufacturers.

McHenry, William P., Jr., secretary, unemployment compensation com-

mittee, Chamber of Commerce of the United States-

Mackey, Walter J., in behalf of the Ohio Manufacturers' Association...

Matsunaga, Hon. Spark M., a Representative in Congress from the State of

Hawaii.

Munts, Prof. Raymond, School of Social Work, University of Wisconsin.
National Assembly for Social Policy and Development, Prof. Elizabeth

Wickenden, special consultant.--

National Association of Manufacturers, H. C. Lumb, chairman, employee

benefits committee...

National Council of Salesmen's Organizations, Marvin Leffler, chairman of

the board..

National Farmers Organization, Harry L. Graham, legislative representa-

tive....

National Federation of Independent Business, Jerome Gulan, legislative

director.

National Taxpayers Conference, Donald W. Jackson
New Jersey Manufacturers Association, James R. Tobin, chairman, em-

ployment security committee

O'Brien, James, social security department, American Federation of Labor

and Congress of Industrial Organizations.

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Ohio Manufacturers' Association, Walter J. Mackey-
Parker, Michael, consultant, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan.
Rosbrow, James M., Wilmington, Del.----
Rothell, Henry, in behalf of Interstate Conference of Employment Security

Agencies (assistant administrator, Texas Employment Commission)-
Tennessee Taxpayers Association, Donald W. Jackson...
Tetrault, Helene, business representative in charge of unemployment

insurance matters, Actors' Equity Association.---
Texas Manufacturers Association, L. W. Gray, vice president..
Tobin, James R., chairman, employment security committee, New Jersey

Manufacturers Association..
Triggs, Matt, assistant legislative director, American Farm Bureau

Federation.--
Tuley, C. Weber, in behalf of the Conference of State Manufacturer

Associations..
Vavoulis, George J., president, Interstate Conference of Employment

Security Agencies (commissioner, Minnesota Department of Employ

ment Security).
Wickenden, Prof. Elizabeth, special consultant, National Assembly for

Social Policy and Development...
Wisconsin Industry, Labor and Human Relations Commission, Lawrence
A. Burley---

MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD
Aerospace Industries Association of America, statement-
Agricultural Producers Labor Committee, J. J. Miller, executive vice

president, statement..
Alabama Labor Council, Barney Weeks, president, telegram dated October

2, 1969, to Chairman Mills. Albany (N. Y.) Building Trades, Raymond F. Maguire, president, tele

gram dated September 31, 1969, to Chairman Mills Albany (N. Y.) Central Federation of Labor, Charles T. Mirabile, presi

dent, telegram dated September 31, 1969, to Chairman Mills-Allegheny (Pa.) County Labor Council, Anthony J. Lutty, executive

secretary, telegram dated September 31, 1969, to Chairman MillsAllen County (Ind.) Central Labor Council, Henry C. Rodenbeck, record

ing secretary, telegram dated October 6, 1969, to Chairman Mills Aluminum Company of America, C. E. Winckler, assistant controller, taxes

and financial accounting, letter dated October 1, 1969, to Chairman Mills

with attachment.. American Association of Nurserymen, Inc., Robert F. Lederer, executive

vice president, letter dated October 8, 1969, to Chairman Mills. American Council on Education, statement.American Hospital Association, Kenneth Williamson, deputy director, let

ter dated October 7, 1969, to Chairman Mills.American Hotel & Motel Association, statement. American Legion, statement of Austin E. Kerby, director, national eco

nomic commission... American Nurses Association, Hildegard E. Peplau, executive director,

letter dated October 3, 1969, to Chairman Mills.-
American Paper Institute, Edwin A. Locke, Jr., president, letter dated

October 6, 1969, to Chairman Mills.
American Pulpwood Association, R. R. Edgar, president, telegram dated

October 10, 1969, to Chairman Mills.-
Anderson Clayton, E. L. Ogden, vice president personnel, letter dated Oc-

tober 3, 1969, to Chairman Mills -
Armco Steel Corp., B. C. Huselton, vice president, personnel and public

relations, statement. Armstead, Alfred Y., secretary of agencies and institutions, Lutheran

Church-Missouri Synod, letter dated October 7, 1969, to John M. Mar

tin, Committee on Ways and Means.-Arywitz, Sigmund, executive secretary, Los Angeles County (Calif.) Fed

eration of Labor, AFL-CIO, telegram dated September 31, 1969, to

Chairman Mills
Associated General Contractors of America, William E. Dunn, executive

director, letter dated October 10, 1969, to Chairman Mills.

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