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In each instance the agency making the request was ruled ineligible for transfer of such properties under present Federal regulations, even when it was for educational purposes.

The Georgia State Agency for Surplus Property is a branch of the State department of education. Its director has advised me on several occasions that the agency would be pleased to render service to such organizations as the Georgia Safety Patrol Camp if it had authority under the law to do so.

My experience indicates a proven need for amending the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to authorize the disposal of surplus property to welfare and volunteer fire-fighting organizations; tax-supported camps and public recreation centers; and public health agencies of the States. I wholeheartedly support the various bills now under consideration by this special subcommittee to extend the donation of surplus Government properties to these additional agencies.

Thank you for granting me this opportunity to present a statement today in support of these various bills amending the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949.

Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Baldwin, I notice you are here.

Are you interested in 9522?

Mr. BALDWIN. Mr. Chairman, the bill I am interested in is H. R. 543. Mr. McCORMACK. 543? Yes.

All right. We will hear you, Congressman Baldwin.

Mr. NIмTZ. Mr. Chairman, we certainly want to thank you for this opportunity and the great amount of time the committee has given

to us.

The volunteer fire fighters all over the country will be very appreciative of the committee's interest in this subject matter and for the amount of time the committee has allowed us to present our case. Thank you, sir.

(H. R. 543, 7067, and 10789 follow :)

[H. R. 543, 85th Cong., 1st sess.]

A BILL To amend the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to permit the donation and other disposal of property to tax-supported public recreation agencies

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) paragraph (1) of section 203 (j) of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (j)), is amended by inserting "public recreation," immediately after "public health,".

(b) The first sentence of paragraph (3) of section 203 (j) of such Act of 1949, as amended, is amended—

(1) by striking out "or public health," and by inserting in lieu thereof ", public health, or public recreation,”.

(2) by striking out “and (B)” and inserting in lieu thereof "(B)", and

(3) by inserting immediately before the period at the end thereof the following: "and (C) tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State, or of any political subdivision of a State.".

SEC. 2. (a) The first sentence of paragraph (1) of section 203 (k) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (k)) is amended by inserting before the period at the end thereof a comma and the following: "or for use in the promotion of public recreation".

(b) Paragraph (1) of such section 203 (k) is further amended

(1) by redesignating subparagraphs (C) and (D) as subparagraphs (D) and (E),

(2) by striking out subparagraph (A) and subparagraph (B) in the subparagraph so redesignated as subparagraph (D) and inserting in lieu thereof "subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C)"; and

(3) by inserting after subparagraph (B) the following new subparagraph: "(C) Subject to the disapproval of the Administrator within thirty days after notice to him by the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare of a proposed transfer of property for use in the promotion of public recreation,

the Secretary, through such officers and employees of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare as he may designate, may sell or lease such real property for public recreation purposes to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State."

(c) Paragraph (2) of such section 203 (k) is amended by striking out "or" at the end of subparagraph (D), by striking out the comma at the end of subparagraph (E) and inserting in lieu thereof "; or", and by inserting immediately after subparagraph (E) the following new subparagraph:

"(F) The Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, through such officer or employee of the Department as he may designate, in the case of property transferred pursuant to this Act to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State for use in the promotion of public recreation.".

SEC. 3. Section 203 (o) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (0)) is amended by striking out "educational or public health institutions" and inserting in lieu thereof "educational or public health institutions, or public recreation agencies,".

[H. R. 7067, 85th Cong., 1st sess.]

A BILL To amend the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to permit the donation and other disposal of property to tax-supported public recreation agencies

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) paragraph (1) of section 203 (j) of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (j)), is amended by inserting "public recreation," immediately after "public health,".

(b) The first sentence of paragraph (3) of section 203 (j) of such Act of 1949, as amended, is amended

(1) by striking out "or public health," and by inserting in lieu thereof ", public health, or public recreation,",

(2) by striking out "and (B)" and inserting in lieu thereof "(B)", and

(3) by inserting immediately before the period at the end thereof the following: "and (C) tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State, or of any political subdivision of a State.".

SEC. 2. (a) The first sentence of paragraph (1) of section 203 (k) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (k)) is amended by inserting before the period at the end thereof a comma and the following: "or for use in the promotion of public recreation".

(b) Paragraph (1) of such section 203 (k) is further amended

(1) by redesignating subparagraphs (C) and (D) as subparagraphs (D) and (E),

(2) by striking out subparagraph (A) and subparagraph (B) in the subparagraph so redesignated as subparagraph (D) and inserting in lieu thereof "subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C)"; and

(3) by inserting after subparagraph (B) the following new subparagraph: "(C) Subject to the disapproval of the Administrator within thirty days after notice to him by the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare of a proposed transfer of property for use in the promotion of public recreation. the Secretary, through such officers and employees of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare as he may designate, may sell or lease such real property for public recreation purposes to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State." (c) Paragraph (2) of such section 203 (k) is amended by striking out "or" at the end of subparagraph (D), by striking out the comma at the end of subparagraph (E) and inserting in lieu thereof "; or", and by inserting immediately after subparagraph (E) the following new subparagraph:

"(F) The Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, through such officer or employee of the Department as he may designate, in the case of property transferred pursuant to this Act to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State for use in the promotion of public recreation.".

SEC. 3. Section 203 (o) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C., sec. 484 (o)) is amended by striking out "educational or public health institutions" and inserting in lieu thereof "educational or public health institutions, or public recreation agencies,".

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[H. R. 10789, 85th Cong., 2d sess.]

A BILL To amend the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to permit the donation and other disposal of property to tax-supported public recreation agencies

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) paragraph (1) of section 203 (j) of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C. 484 (j)), is amended by inserting "public recreation," immediately after "public health,".

(b) The first sentence of paragraph (3) of section 203 (j) of such Act of 1949, as amended, is amended

(1) by striking out "or public health," and by inserting in lieu thereof "public health, or public recreation,”;

(2) by striking out "and (B)" and inserting in lieu thereof "B": and (3) by inserting immediately before the period at the end thereof the following: "and (C) tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State, or of any political subdivision of a State".

SEC. 2. (a) The first sentence of paragraph (1) of section 203 (k) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C. 484 (k)) is amended by inserting before the period at the end thereof a comma and the following: "or for use in the promotion of public recreation".

(b) Paragraph (1) of such section 203 (k) is further amended—

(1) by redesignating subparagraphs (C) and (D) as subparagraphs (D) and (E);

(2) by striking out "subparagraph (A) and subparagraph (B)" in the subparagraph so redesignated as subparagraph (D) and inserting in lieu thereof "subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C)"; and

(3) by inserting after subparagraph (B) the following new subparagraph: "(C) Subject to the disapproval of the Administrator within thirty days after notice to him by the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare of a proposed transfer of property for use in the promotion of public recreation, the Secretary, through such officers and employees of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare as he may designate, may sell or lease such real property for public recreation purposes to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State." (c) Paragraph (2) of such section 203 (k) is amended by striking out "or" at the end of subparagraph (D), by striking out the comma at the end of subparagraph (E) and inserting in lieu thereof "; or", and by inserting immediately after subparagraph (E) the following new subparagraph:

"(F) The Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, through such officer or employee of the Department as he may designate, in the case of property transferred pursuant to this Act to tax-supported public recreation agencies of any State or of any political subdivision of a State for use in the promotion of public recreation.".

SEC. 3. Section 203 (o) of such Act of 1949, as amended (40 U. S. C. 484 (0)), is amended by striking out "educational or public health institutions" and inserting in lieu thereof "educational or public health institutions, or public recreation agencies,”.

STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN F. BALDWIN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

Mr. BALDWIN. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity to appear before this subcommittee. I introduced H. R. 543 at the beginning of the 85th Congress at the request of the California State Director of Recreation, and also as a result of a great deal of interest in the measure by a recreation district at Vallejo in my congressional district in California, and since introducing it, I have received a tremendous amount of correspondence from public recreation districts throughout the United States, one of them from the recreation board of the District of Columbia, one of them from the North Carolina Recreation Society and a great number of others.

This bill would simply add the words "tax supported public recreation agencies," to the groups that are now covered, that is educational facilities are covered, and health and civil defense, and this would add tax-supported public recreation agencies.

And I would like to say, Mr. Chairman, that the city of Vallejo in Solano County is a typical county where this would be of benefit.

Vallejo is where the Mare Island shipyard is located. The tax base is very limited because the shipyard is not on the tax base and yet the great number of people employed there have families and youngsters that are taken care of during the school hours by the schools. But then when the school hours are closed the need of providing them with proper recreation facilities continues, and it is especially true during the summer months.

It seems to me if we recognized in the bill we passed dealing with education that there was some benefit to be gained through this program it would apply not only to the hours the youngsters are in school but to the hours they are not in school but still in need of proper guidance and proper training.

And in Vallejo we have a recreational district. They are in need of equipment that would be available in the way of surplus from the Mare Island Naval Shipyard and Benicia Arsenal and other installations that would be of great help in providing an adequate recreational program for these youngsters.

They also are in need of real property upon which to put their recreational facilities, and in the city of Vallejo at the present time there are several hundred acres of surplus property which came from war housing or other Federal activities which has not been disposed of but is still in process, and legislation of this type would make it possible for tax-supported public agencies without funds to acquire at least sufficient surplus property to develop the recreational facilities they need.

As I say it seems to me this ties right in with the theory under which we enacted the law to make it possible for school districts to take care of surplus property because the schools take care of the youngsters only 6 or 7 hours a day and then there are many additional hours not only on school days but weekends and 3 months during the summer, that a tax supported public recreation district has the burden of providing a program for these youngsters living in fairly populated areas and keeping them occupied to avoid diverting their energies to things that are detrimental to the community, and that is the reason I introduced this measure, Mr. Chairman.

It has received a great deal of recognition from recreation agencies throughout the country, and I hope very much that the subcommittee may give it favorable consideration.

Mr. McCORMACK. Any questions, Mr. May?

Mr. MAY. The only question that came to my mind, Mr. Chairman, was this recreation apparently is apart from the school system. Í know in many towns the schools and their schoolyards have recreational facilities there and that the children use after the school is over for the day.

Would not it be possible for the recreation needs to be developed through the school system in a case like that?

Mr. BALDWIN. Well, this is a public recreation district. It coordinates with the school system but it has found that there is a need for

additional facilities beyond those that are available in some of the schools in this particular community, and I think that is true in many communities throughout the United States.

Mr. MAY. Thank you. I see.

Mr. McCORMACK. Any further questions?

If not, thank you, Congressman Baldwin.
Mr. BALDWIN. Thank you.

Mr. McCORMACK. Anyone else appearing in support of the legislation?

Well, thank you very much.

I see Congressman Herlong.

You are here in support of H. R. 10010, Mr. Herlong?

Mr. HERLONG. That is right.

Mr. McCORMACK. And 10118 and 9522, related bills.

(H. R. 9522 appears on p. 29, H. R. 10010 and H. R. 10118 follow :)

[H. R. 10010, 85th Cong., 2d sess.]

A BILL To amend the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to authorize the disposal of certain surplus property to public health agencies of a State, its political subdivisions and instrumentalities

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That paragraph (3) of subsection (j) of section 203 of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 (40 U. S. C. 484), is amended by inserting immediately after "tax-supported medical institutions, hospitals, clinics," the following: "public health agencies of the State, and its political subdivisions and instrumentalities."

SEC. 2. Subsection (j) of section 203 of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 is further amended by adding at the end thereof the following new paragraph:

"(7) As used in this subsection the term—

"(A) 'public health' includes but is not limited to sanitation activities generally, including sanitary land fill programs, mosquito and insect control programs, malaria control programs, and drainage programs; and

"(B) public health agencies of the State, and its political subdivisions and instrumentalities' includes but is not limited to malaria control districts, mosquito and insect control districts, sanitary districts, and drainage districts."

[H. R. 10118, 85th Cong., 2d sess.]

A BILL To amend the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 to authorize the disposal of certain surplus property to public health agencies of a State, its political subdivisions and instrumentalities

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That paragraph (3) of subsection (j) of section 203 of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 (40 U. S. C. 484), is amended by inserting immediately after "tax-supported medical institutions, hospitals, clinics," the following: "public health agencies of the State, and its political subdivisions and instrumentalities."

SEC. 2. Subsection (j) of section 203 of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 is further amended by adding at the end thereof the following new paragraph:

"(7) As used in this subsection the term

"(A) 'public health' includes but is not limited to sanitation activities generally, including sanitary land fill programs, mosquito and insect control programs, malaria control programs, and drainage programs; and

"(B) 'public health agencies of the State, and its political subdivisions and instrumentalities' includes but is not limited to malaria control districts, mosquito and insect control districts, sanitary districts, and drainage districts."

Mr. McCORMACK. We will be very glad to hear from you, Congressman Herlong.

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