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Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee: I am Keith G. Dorman, of Peoples Natural Gas Company of Pittsburgh. Peoples is a distribution subsidiary of the Consolidated Natural Gas Company (CNG), an integrated company that produces, transports and distributes natural gas. CNG distribution subsidiaries serve nearly 1.7 million consumers in the states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia. A.G.A. is a national trade association comprising some 250 natural gas distribution and transmission companies. Natural gas is the home heating fuel for over 49 million households in the United States. On A.G.A.'s behalf, I am pleased to have this opportunity to appear before the Subcommittee in support of the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP).

A.GA. member companies are deeply committed to meeting the energy needs of all of our consumers, including those who are on low or fixed incomes. A.G.A. has long supported federal energy assistance programs such as the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) LIHEAP and the Department of Energy's weatherization program. In addition to supporting federal funding efforts, A.G.A.'s member companies have contributed significantly to low-income energy assistance at the local level.

The natural gas industry urges this Subcommittee to fund LIHEAP at a level of no less than $1.7 billion for fiscal year 1992. This figure represents "current services"-the fiscal year 1991 allocation of $1.6 billion plus inflation. Further, A.G.A. opposes the fiscal year 1992 Administration request of $925 million, which represents a 42 percent cut over the appropriation for the current year.

A.G.A. supports a LIHEAP program that is adequately funded. Most studies on the low-income energy problem indicate that past LIHEAP funding levels, including the highest annual appropriations of $2.1 billion in fiscal year 1985 and $2 billion in fiscal year 1986, have fallen significantly short of the need for fuel assistance. An estimated 24 million households in this country need some help paying utility bills. Presently, only a small portion of these consumers' total energy costs are covered by LIHEAP. In its 1989 report, the National Consumer Law Center indicated that for 1988, LIHEAP funds covered less than 20 percent of the energy costs for eligible households. Moreover, according to statistics provided by HHS, only from 23 to 34 percent of all eligible households received LIHEAP funds in fiscal year 1988. Even in its peak year, LIHEAP reached only about one-third of these households, between five and six million. The average LIHEAP benefit is about $194 a year, versus about $1,000 in energy costs. Ideally, LIHEAP funding should be sufficient to ensure that low-income families have a reasonable opportunity to meet their energy bills.


The lack of adequate funding will affect all ratepayers, because adequate funding of LIHEAP plays an important role in keeping bills somewhat reasonable for all consumers. Many low-income consumers who do not receive energy assistance, in many cases simply cannot, and do not pay their utility bills. Mandated and voluntary moratoria on utility service terminations prevent disconnection of low-income households in winter months. Utilities attempt to work out manageable payment plans for these consumers. However, if not successful, the customer gets further and further behind and the cost of providing gas service without payment is ultimately considered part of a utility's cost of service. This becomes a burden that is borne by all utility consumers.

There is another class of consumer whose plight is made worse by reduced federal funding-the millions of consumers who are on the fringe of LIHEAP eligibility. Often referred to as the "working poor", they are currently able to meet their energy costs without LIHEAP. However, an increase in energy costs or an increase in fuel usage due to cold weather could place these households in the same inability to pay situation that faces LIHEAP-recipient households today. Further, reduced LIHEAP funding forces many states to tighten eligibility requirements, precluding many of these same households from even applying for LIHEAP grants when they are needed most.

STABLE FUEL PRICES DO NOT REDUCE THE NEED FOR ADEQUATE LIHEAP FUNDING To millions of low-income consumers, LIHEAP is a badly needed safety net. While fuel prices have stabilized, LIHEAP recipients still spend an unduly large portion of family income for energy. Studies have repeatedly shown that low-income families

pay a much greater share of their incomes for energy costs than do other families. According to the most recent HHS Report to Congress on LIHEAP (covering the years through 1989), households with incomes below 125 percent of the poverty level spend approximately four times more (13.7 percent of income) for energy than all American households combined (3.4 percent of income).

In addition, part of the fuel price stability is due to lower fuel consumption, which directly correlates with the relatively mild winters we have experienced during the past three heating seasons. Congress should recognize that a return to normal or below normal weather next year would lead to increased fuel consumption which, in turn, would cause an increase in the percent of income devoted to home heating. Finally, the recent events in the Middle East exemplify the volatility of fuel prices and the impact international events affecting energy markets can have on low-income consumers in the United States.


Proponents of further cuts in LIHEAP argue that funding from other sources, such as the so-called oil overcharge funds, are available as supplemental funds to fill the gap. Congress should note that the impact of oil overcharge funds resulting from court decisions in U.S. v. Exxon and Stripper Well are virtually gone. Further, these moneys supplement rather than supplant fuel aid programs. A February 1989 Report by the National Consumer Law Center estimates that 95 percent of all overcharge funds that were available nationwide have now been allocated by the states for a variety of uses. A total of $2.9 billion oil overcharge funds were allocated between 1986 and January, 1989. Of this amount, LIHEAP received only $590 million. During that same time period, LIHEAP saw a cumulative cut in federal appropriations of $1.652 billion. Therefore, the existence of oil overcharge funds should have no bearing on the amount Congress appropriates for LIHEAP.


The burden of the low-income consumers' needs does not have to rest solely on the shoulders of the federal government. The states and the private sector also have a responsibility to contribute to the needs of these consumers, with the private sector already providing significant funds and related services. A.G.A. member companies have developed innovative and effective programs in this area, putting company money and human resources to work. Examples of this include hiring outreach workers to bring together all the available resources in the community, developing budget counseling programs, and instituting a variety of crisis activities. The experience of Peoples Gas is outlined in my oral presentation.

Since the late 1970's, many A.G.A. member companies have created and helped finance private fuel fund programs and weatherization projects in an effort to supplement LIHEAP and other federal programs. A recent survey sponsored jointly by A.G.A., the National Fuel Funds Network and the Edison Electric Institute provides a statistical portrait of the utility fuel fund programs of 121 respondents. The study clearly establishes that utility fuel funds are providing some measure of support for low-income households. In fact, the respondents reported that, since inception of utility fuel fund programs, they have distributed approximately $131.42 million to approximately 857,527 households. (Because many funds permit a household to receive benefits more than once annually, the number of households data could actually double count recipients.) In the 1987 reporting year, the respondents distributed $31.02 million to 193,081 households, with grants averaging $160.68 per household, and the average fund distributing $274,551. Of course, programs like the Dollar Energy Fund in western Pennsylvania and other utility fuel funds cannot do the whole job. Indeed, although they represent generous private sector support, utility fuel funds do not even begin to approach the support needed at the federal level through LIHEAP.

Despite the efforts of A.G.A. member companies' fuel fund programs and other financial support from the private sector, the need for adequate federal funding of LIHEAP remains imperative.


During reauthorization hearings last year we requested a series of statutory changes to allow more benefit dollars to go to recipients. A.G.A. is pleased that some of these requests were adopted. Changing the appropriations cycle to begin in July rather than October will provide for funds to be available prior to the traditional start of the heating season. Moreover, eliminating the transfer authority by 1994 and reducing the current carryover level from 15 percent to 10 percent, will help

to meet the needs of low-income households and the state monetary requirements for instituting LIHEAP programs each heating season. While not all of our recommendations were statutorily instituted, we are working closely with HHS in developing the implementing regulations to help stretch the budget dollars that are allocated for LIHEAP.

On behalf of A.G.A. and its member companies, I respectfully urge you and your fellow Senators to support our recommendation to fund LIHEAP at the level of $1.7 billion for fiscal year 1992.


Senator REID. As you note, the administration has requested about a $500,000 cut.

Mr. DORMAN. Yes, sir.

Senator REID. This subcommittee gets letters from about 60 Senators each year opposing any cuts. So, we will see what happens this year.

Mr. DORMAN. I take great comfort in that. Thank you, Senator. Senator REID. I appreciate your testimony.


Senator REID. We would like to hear now from Samuel J. Simmons of the National Caucus and Center on Black Aged. Welcome to the subcommittee.

Mr. CRECY. Just a correction for the record, Mr. Chairman. My name is Larry Crecy. Sam Simmons, our president, was called away, and we in turn notified the committee yesterday that I would be standing in for him.

Senator REID. Please spell your name for the record.

Mr. CRECY. For the record, my name is spelled C-r-e-c-y, first name is Larry, and I am executive vice president for the National Caucus and Center on Black Aged.

Senator REID. Please proceed.

Mr. CRECY. Also, I would like for the record to provide the revised testimony to reflect the change.

Senator REID. Your full statement will be made a part of the record.

Mr. CRECY. Well, Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, the National Caucus and Center on Black Aged appreciates the opportunity to testify at this hearing on the fiscal year 1992 Labor, HHS Appropriations Act.

First and foremost, our No. 1 concern is the rejection of the illconceived proposal by the administration to slash $47.5 million from the title V senior community service employment program. This would be a reduction in over 7,800 part-time positions that serve low-income, older workers who offer job opportunities in community service. Particularly we think that it is ill-conceived at a point in time when unemployment is on the rise and it is difficult enough for older workers, particularly low-skill, low-educated older workers, to find employment opportunities when the economy is viable. At this point in time all the indicators are, particularly in the rural sectors where a good proportion of our programs are focused, are having a hard time in continuing employment trends. Aside from the bad timing as it relates to unemployment, also a lot of services that are in crises right now, child care centers, Head Start programs, in-home services, health services for the elderly,


and Meals on Wheels program, depend very heavily on these title V positions. NCBA strongly believes that it is not simply enough to reject the administration's proposal, but we are calling for an additional $15 million in funding to achieve the objectives of title V. As you know, in the last year we took a pretty hefty cut from the proposed $400 million down to $390 million currently.

The $15 million proposed is below the inflation rate. It is about a 3.75-percent increase. We are asking for this increase first to restore the number of title V positions that were previously cut because of the minimum wage hike, Federal minimum wage increase. And second, it will give us a hedge against inflation as we move into the coming year.

The other activity that we would like to comment on is the title IV training and research discretionary grants under the Older Americans Act. NCBA urges that the Congress increase the current level of funding for title IV from $26.9 million to $28.5 million. This modest increase will allow the Commission on Aging, Dr. Joyce Berry, to launch some of her new initiatives to improve the quality of life for older Americans. Particular interests would be projects that would promote increased minority participation and projects to fund gerontological activities at historically black colleges and uni


I have kept my comments brief because I understand the committee has a number of witnesses and it has been a long day. And all of those witnesses preceding us have truly exemplified need in this country.


But we ask the committee to take into consideration that the title V program which is crucial to a number of Older Americans Act programs, your Meals on Wheels programs, your nutrition sites, your in-home health care services programs, your Head Start programs, are all being hard hit by budget cuts, and slashing 7,800 positions from title V that augment a lot of the service these title V enrollees augment a lot of those services by these various agencies, not just the elderly community, but the community in general and the youth of this country, child care programs in particular, as you know are in a crisis in this country. A number of title V enrollees are working in those sites. Slicing 7,800 positions at this time is ill-conceived and almost mean-spirited, sir.

Senator REID. Thank you very much for your testimony. It was very clear and precise.

Mr. CRECY. Thank you.

[The statement follows:]


Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, the National Caucus and Center on Black Aged (NCBA) appreciates the opportunity to testify at this hearing on the fiscal year 1992 Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations Act. As you have requested, we shall limit our oral testimony to three minutes.


Our number one recommendation is to reject the Administration's ill conceived proposal to slash more than $47.5 million from the Title V Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP), from $390.360 million for fiscal year 1991 to

$342.814 million for fiscal year 1992. This represents a 12-percent cut. Overall, the number of SCSEP positions would decline by 7,844, from 64,405 authorized positions for fiscal year 1991 to 56,561 for fiscal year 1992. If the Administration's proposal should become law, NCBA estimates that 1,875 to 2,625 older Blacks would be terminated from the program. In many cases, these individuals would be among the poorest of the poor in the United States.

NCBA strongly believes that it is simply not enough to reject the Administration's proposal. The Subcommittee must approve a realistic appropriation which allows Title V to respond to the major needs of low-income older Americans and the communities they serve in a fiscally responsible manner.

NCBA is calling for a $415 million funding level to achieve this objective. This is $15 million more than the $400 million which the Congress approved for the SCSEP for fiscal year 1990, prior to the 2.41-percent across-the-board reduction for nearly all Labor-HHS-Education activities. The $400 million appropriation was necessary to prevent a loss of Title V positions because of the two-step increase in the Federal hourly minimum wage. Our proposal for a $415 million funding level for fiscal year 1992 would achieve two objectives:

First, it would restore the number of Title V positions to the level prior to the minimum wage hike.

Second, it would partially take account of inflation since Congress acted to prevent a loss of positions because of the Federal minimum wage increase. Our proposed inflation adjustment, we should stress, is less than the projected inflation rate when using a $400 million baseline. We are doing this because we fully recognize that the fiscal year 1992 budget will be extremely tight.

For these reasons, we reaffirm our support for a $415 million funding level for Title V for fiscal year 1992.


Additionally, NCBA urges that funding for the Older Americans Act Title IV Training, Research, and Demonstration program be increased from $26.9 million in fiscal year 1991 to $28.5 million in fiscal year 1992. This modest increase would help the U.S. Commissioner on Aging to launch her initiatives to improve the quality of life for older Americans in a number of high priority areas, such as boosting minority participation in Older Americans Act programs, elder care, and other initiatives. NCBA further urges the Subcommittee to approve report language to call upon the Administration on Aging to provide additional funds for (1) projects to promote minority participation in Older Americans Act programs and (2) gerontological activities undertaken by historical Black colleges and universities.


In conclusion, NCBA welcomes the opportunity to appear before this Subcommittee. We appreciate your past support in funding programs for low-income older Americans. We look forward to working with you and your staff in the future. Thank you again for your consideration.


Senator REID. The committee will now hear from Sharon Surrel of the technologist section of the Society of Nuclear Medicine. Ms. SURREL. Thank you and good morning, Senator.

Senator REID. I appreciate your patience in waiting until we got to you.

Ms. SURREL. Thank you.

I am Sharon Surrel, certified nuclear medicine technologist and manager of the Department of Nuclear Medicine, Washington Hospital Center, Washington, DC, I am pleased to represent the Society of Nuclear Medicine Technologist Section. The society is a scientific organization of over 10,000 members, including 5,000 members of the technologist section.

We strongly support the reauthorization of title VII of the Public Health Service Act and appropriations necessary to revitalize essential training programs for the allied health professions. Nuclear

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