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Kenneth Anderson, Roosevelt, Calif

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Mrs. LaVerne N. Cohen, Sacramento, Calif.

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Harold E. Crowe, M.D., honorary vice president, Sierra Club, Los
Angeles, Calif..

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Fred H. Dressler, Gardnersville, Nev., president, American National
Cattlemen's Association...

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Glen D. Franklin, on behalf of the Alaska Miners Association, Fair-
banks, Alaska.

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Robert Frenkel, Berkeley, Calif

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Arthur B. Johnson, consulting engineer, West Covina, Calif

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Don Greame Kelley, San Anselmo, Calif.

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Frank P. Knight, director, Arizona Department of Mineral Re-
sources, Phoenix, Ariz.-

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Jack M. Merelman, legislative consultant, County Supervisors Associ-
ation of California, Sacramento, Calif

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J. Harold Severaid, associate professor of life science, Sacramento
State College, Sacramento, Calif.

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WILDERNESS PRESERVATION SYSTEM

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1961

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS, Sacramento, Calif. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4203, State Capitol Building, at 10:10 a.m., Hon. Gracie Pfost (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mrs. ProST. The Subcommittee on Public Lands will now come to order for the consideration of proposed wilderness legislation.

Before we start this morning the Chair would like to make an announcement that even though we should like very much to accommodate tape recorders, TV stations, and photographers, the rules of the House prevent us from having pictures taken or tape recordings made during a regular session. Therefore, if a picture is needed or wanted, we shall be very happy to temporarily recess, allow the picture to be made, and then go back into session so that we can accommodate anyone who wishes to take pictures.

Before we start, we should like to introduce the members of our subcommittee.

To my immediate left is the gentleman from Alaska, Congressman Ralph Rivers, and to his left the Congressman from North Dakota, Mr. Nygaard. And to my right, I am sure I do not need to introduce this gentleman because you people probably know him almost better than those of us serving on the committee with him because I understand he was in your State legislature for 10 years and lives just 18 miles from the heart of Sacramento, the Honorable Harold Johnson from your own beautiful Sacramento Valley area.

Then we have our staff members: our consultant on public lands, to Mr. Johnson's right, Mr. Milton Pearl, and to his right is the counsel of our committee, Mr. Richard Witmer, and down in front is our reporter, Mr. Karl Veley.

I am delighted to come back to the lovely, sunshiny Sacramento Valley. I have been here several times and have some friendships of long standing, and it is always a pleasure to return again.

The Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs of the House of Representatives has had referred to it eight wilderness bills, but in the interest of time, we are going to refer today to S. 174, the Senatepassed bill which has also been referred to our committee.

Within the Interior and Insular Affairs Committee I have the honor to serve as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Public Lands, which is charged with the direct responsibility for examining the need for legislation in this field and making recommendations to the full com

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