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SACRAMENTO, CALIF.

NOVEMBER 6, 1961

Statement of -

Kenneth Anderson, Roosevelt, Calif.

Mrs. J. B. Atkisson, conservation chairman, California Federation

of Women's Clubs..

CH. C. Bradley, M.D., Berkeley, Calif.

David Brower, Berkeley, Calif

Mrs. Hasse Bunnelle, Berkeley, Calif.

Elizabeth Buykry, Long Beach, Calif.

Mrs. Betty Č. Carl, chairman, Pioneer Camping Committee, Camp

Fire Girls, Sacramento, Calif.

Rev. Don M. Chase, St. Andrews Methodist Church, Sacramento,

Calif..

Lewis F. Clark, president, Federation of Western Outdoor Clubs,

Alameda, Calif.

Mrs. La Verne N. Cohen, Sacramento, Calif.

Harold E. Crowe, M.D., honorary vice president, Sierra Club, Los

Angeles, Calif.

Paul Cooley, Los Angeles, Calif

Rav Crane, Crane Mills, Corning, Calif.

John Parkes Davis, attorney at law, New Verde Mines Co., Grass

Valley, Calif...

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John B. De Witt, Sacramento, Calif

George D. Difani, representing the Associated Sportsmen of California.

Stuart R. Dole, on behalf of Trustees for Conservation.-

John C. Dozier, professional forester, representing the Madera County

Chamber of Commerce

Fred H. Dressler, Gardnersville, Nev., president, American National

Cattlemen's Association..

Beula Edminston, secretary of the Committee for the Preservation of

the Tule Elk, Los Angeles, Calif.

Philip W. Faulconer, Berkeley, Calif.,

Sheldon P. Fay, president, U.S. Pumice Supply Co., Inc., Los Angeles,

Calif..

Glen D. Franklin, on behalf of the Alaska Miners Association, Fair-

banks, Alaska
Gretchen Fitzpatrick, vice president, Carmichael Garden Club,

Carmichael, Calif.
Robert Frenkel, Berkeley, Calif
Gordon A. Goodwin, chairman, Public Lands Committee, Western

Oil & Gas Association.
Louis D. Gordon, Phoenix, Ariz., representing the Nevada Mining

Association, Inc.

W. Howard Gray, Nevada Mining Association, Inc.

Mrs. Fern Hall, San Francisco, Calif., representing the California

Alpine Club.

Bill Hawkins, Pacific Union College

Ralph Hawkins, M.D., Palo Alto, Calif.

Samuel G. Houghton, Reno, Nev.

Mrs. Lisa Howard, Sacramento, Calif.

Joe Hughes, Hughes Bros., Foresthill, Calif..

E. P. Ivory, Western Lumber Manufacturers, Inc., San Francisco,

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Mrs. Del Mar Janson, Sacramento, Calif.

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Arthur B. Johnson, consulting engineer, West Covina, Calif.
Don Greame Kelley, San Anselmo, Calif-

Frank P. Knight, director, Arizona Department of Mineral Re-

sources, Phoenix, Ariz. -

Jerry Lausmann, manager, Kogap Lumber Co., Medford, Oreg -

William H. Larson, manager, Washington Forest Protection Associa-

tion, Seattle, Wash-

Howard R. Leach, president, Sacramento Audubon Society

Robert Marshall, Pomona, Calif.

Warner L. Marsh, vice president, American Institute of Landscape

Architects, Sacramento, Calif_

Mrs. Charlotte E. Mauk, Berkeley, Calif -

Harvey C. McGee, publisher, Sonora Union Democrat, Sonora,

Calif.

Jack M. Merelman, legislative consultant, County Supervisors Associ-

ation of California, Sacramento, Calif

Mrs. Charles Miller, Alameda, Calif..

Ralph A. Nissen, California Farm Bureau Federation, Williams,

Calif.

Edgar F. Norby, administrative officer, Madera County Board of

Supervisors, Madera, Calif.

Grant B. Potter, general manager, Sequoia Forest Industries, Dinuba,

Calif..

Roland Case Ross, educational director, Desomount Club, Pasadena,

Calif..

J. Harold Severaid, associate professor of life science, Sacramento

State College, Sacramento, Calif
Luella K. Sawyer, editor, San Francisco, Calif.
Dorothy B. Sanders, Nevada City, Calif.--
Mrs. Madeline M. Sheridan, Sacramento, Calif.
Mrs. Genny Schumacher, Mono County, Calif
Leslie Shaw, editor, Lake County Examiner, Lakeview, Oreg.
Richard C. Sill, associate professor of physics, University of Nevada,

Reno, Nev..

Edwin F. Smith, Placerville, Calif.

Charlotte Stephens, Sebastopol, Calif.

George N. Swallow, Ely, Nev., representing the Central Committee

of the State Grazing Board of Nevada

Irving J. Symons, California State Chamber of Commerce, Sonora,

Calif..

John Tyler, Santa Monica, Calif., vicc chairman, southern California

chapter of the Nature Conservancy -

Gordon Van Vleck, president, California Cattlemen's Association, San

Francisco, Calif-

Thomas N. Walthier, district geologist, Southwest District Bear Creek

Mining Co., Tucson, Ariz.

Mrs. H. M. Weber, representing the California Federation of Women's

Clubs

Henry M. Weber, M.D., conservation chairman, California Garden

Clubs, Inc., Indio, Calif

William E. Warne, administrator, the Resources Agency of California -

F. T. Wilmoth, Minerals Association of Northern California, Auburn,

Calif..

Sam L. Wolf, member of the Range Improvement Committee, Cali-

fornia Wool Growers Association

Mrs. Effie C. Yeaw, Save the American River Association, Sacramento,

Calif.

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WILDERNESS PRESERVATION SYSTEM

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1961

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS OF THE
COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS,

Sacramento, Calif. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4203, State Capitol Building, at 10:10 a.m., Hon. Gracie Pfost (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mrs. Prost. The Subcommittee on Public Lands will now come to order for the consideration of proposed wilderness legislation.

Before we start this morning the Chair would like to make an announcement that even though we should like very much to accommodate tape recorders, TV stations, and photographers, the rules of the House prevent us from having pictures taken or tape recordings made during a regular session. Therefore, if a picture is needed or wanted, we shall be very happy to temporarily recess, allow the picture to be made, and then go back into session so that we can accommodate anyone who wishes to take pictures.

Before we start, we should like to introduce the members of our subcommittee.

To my immediate left is the gentleman from Alaska, Congressman Ralph Rivers, and to his left the Congressman from North Dakota, Mr. Nygaard. And to my right, I am sure I do not need to introduce this gentleman because you people probably know him almost better than those of us serving on the committee with him because I understand he was in your State legislature for 10 years and lives just 18 miles from the heart of Sacramento, the Honorable Harold Johnson from your own beautiful Sacramento Valley area.

Then we have our staff members: our consultant on public lands, to Mr. Johnson's right, Mr. Milton Pearl, and to his right is the counsel of our committee, Mr. Richard Witmer, and down in front is our reporter, Mr. Karl Veley.

I am delighted to come back to the lovely, sunshiny Sacramento Valley. I have been here several times and have some friendships of long standing, and it is always a pleasure to return again.

The Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs of the House of Representatives has had referred to it eight wilderness bills, but in the interest of time, we are going to refer today to S. 174, the Senatepassed bill which has also been referred to our committee.

Within the Interior and Insular Affairs Committee I have the honor to serve as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Public Lands, which is charged with the direct responsibility for examining the need for legislation in this field and making recommendations to the full com

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