Mr. TIERNEY. Or to contemplate implemen know, I don't know who's going to be the arb pect we're going to be spending the rest o what's contemplating and what's not contem of the great dangers of overly broad language Mr. MCINTOSH. What it does is make sur tion can't use these legitimate programs, th for other purposes.

Let me turn now to Mr. Shadegg for 5 min Mr. SHADEGG. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. ing it may well be true that this isn't the not have the authority to ratify the Kyoto the President hasn't even submitted it. But that the administration is proceeding to eff by the Kyoto Protocol and that's what we're

I'd like to begin by asking Mr. Fiedler if statement in response to the question by

Mr. FIEDLER. Well, the only thing I want think it's very important that we all look to for another market, like Europe and Japan, for the United States. This country's 3,000 of people who drive 60, 80, 100 miles to w same solution that works in Stuttgart doesn nois, the same vehicle. The so-called world pened, never will happen. You have vastly we're going to do research about our solut this problem, the research should be done was the only point I wanted to make.

Mr. SHADEGG. The second point I want t Mr. Tierney expressed great concern about rest of the world may get way out ahead of my belief, and I believe, Mr. Fiedler, you d of u that nobody in the world is out and I believe Mr. McTague's tesy tou I'd like both of you to address grave danger in America of An panies working in cooperation Benz or Borg-Warner working of falling behind in basic rese

Mr. MCTAGUE. As I menti tions in the world who sper troit, MI. That's General M AT&T. It's not IBM. It's no Ford. And if you look on t in research and in researc dwarfs that of any other world and is very substan ment in R&D in Japan. Our government invest ment of any other count Mr. SHADEGG. Mr. Fie Mr. FIEDLER. Yes, ju member that when P being done in the Un

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hing I wanted to finish on that e all look to the fact that a soluti and Japan, may not be a saldi try's 3,000 miles wide. I have al miles to work each day. Ye ttgart doesn't work in western alled world vehicle has never b have vastly different markets S at our solution about how to se ld be done to fit our needs. Th nake.

nt I want to go to is my colleag cern about if we don't act ut ahead of us on techno iedler you already ind

Europe where gasoline's $5 a gallon and, as I said in my test if you're going to use energy taxes to pay for your social pro you'll produce different looking cars than if you don't do that Ford have the technology to do it? Of course they do.

But you've got a danger here and this is what happened here in the 1970's. If you move too quick with this and yo Ford and you make them overnight change their U.S. flee where it is now to where it would look like with $5 gasoline, going to really cripple an American giant and you're going advantages to people who have already made cars for this $5 line. Now, you know, that happened to us in the 1970's. We'v dered in the outskirts for about 7 or 8 years before we got of back under us and now we do have our feet back under us.

Mr. SHADEGG. And isn't that fundamentally your concern focusing excessively on meeting the targets in the Kyoto Pr because you have-it is not clear that the science is therewant to talk to Mr. McTague about that point-and the tim that it dictates might produce-not only not produce the b sult, but might produce bad results. Is that right, Mr. Mc

Mr. MCTAGUE. I think that's correct. By the way, on the the science of global climate change, I find it extremely that so much attention is being paid to such crude models. 1 tential impact of man's activities on the total temperature Earth is in the range of 1 percent of the temperature. Now p ing 1 percent of the temperature extremely accurately with a that doesn't even-that is so broad that it averages clouds ov miles, you know, that's like, let's go 300 miles from here. weather the same there as it is here? Is the temperature th is here? Not likely.

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