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Insurance Association of Connecticut, John H. Filer, chairman and chief
executive officer, Aetna Life and Casualty, accompanied by Burton E.
Burton, senior vice president, group division, Aetna_.
Kansas Hospital Association, A. B. Davis, Jr., executive vice president and
chairman, board of directors, accompanied by Frank L. Gentry, execu-
tive director___

Levetan, Liane, commissioner, De Kalb County, Ga., and member, Health
and Education Policy Steering Committee of the National Association of
Counties, accompanied by Mike Gennell, legislative representative----
McMahon, John Alexander, president, American Hospital Association, ac-
companied by Alan Manzano, vice president and Leo J. Gehrig, M.D.,
senior vice president_---

Miller, Morton D., vice chairman, Equitable Life Assurance Society of the
United States, accompanied by William C. White, Jr., vice president,
Prudential Insurance Co. of America, on behalf of Health Insurance
Association of America___.

Moran, M. Gail, staff director, Committee on Human Resources, National
Governors' Conference--.

Mott, Anthony, executive director, Finger Lakes Health Systems Agency,
and chairman, Legislative Committee, American Association for Compre-
hensive Health Planning____

Murphy, Richard E., legislative director, Service Employees International
Union, accompanied by Stanley Wisniewski, research director, Service
Employees International Union__.

National Association of Counties, Liane Levetan, commissioner, De Kalb County, Ga., and member, Health and Education Policy Steering Committee, accompanied by Mike Gennell, legislative representative_‒‒‒‒ National Association of Private Psychiatric Hospitals, Dave M. Davis, M.D., immediate past president, Georgia Psychiatric Association, director of psychiatric services, Peachtree-Parkwood Mental Center and Hospitals, Atlanta, Ga_-_

National Conference of State Legislatures, Hon. David Hollister___. National Council of Community Hospitals, John F. Horty, president, accompanied by John Huff, counsel---

National Council of Health Care Services, Harry Asmus, president, ac

companied by Jack MacDonald, executive vice president__.
National Governors Conference, M. Gail Moran, staff director, committee
on human resources-

National Retired Teachers Association, James M. Hacking, assistant legis-
lative counsel -.
Phillips, Charles D., Ed.D., president, American Protestant Hospital Asso-
ciation

Reba, Richard C., M.D., president, American College of Nuclear Physicians, accompanied by John Dring; and Kenneth L. Nicolas, executive staff

Schwinger, Harold N., M.D., chairman, Board of Chancellors, American
College of Radiology, accompanied by Fredric D. Lake, M.D., president;
J. T. Rutherford, legislative counsel; and Otha W. Linton, director,
governmental relations

Seidman, Bert, director, Social Security Department, AFL-CIO, accom-
panied by Robert McGlotten, Legislative Department, and Richard Shoe-
maker, Social Security Department....

Service Employees International Union, Richard E. Murphy, legislative
director; accompanied by Stanley Wisniewski, research director___.
Stewart, Donald H., M.D., American Association of Neurological Surgeons_
Thevenot, Bruce D., administrator, Government Services Division, Ameri-

can Health Care Association__.

Whalen, Dr. Robert P., on behalf of the Association of State and Territorial
Health Officials

COMMUNICATIONS

American Association of Homes for the Aging, David C. Crowley, executive vice president

American College of Emergency Physicians..
American Dental Association.......

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American Institute of Certified Public Accountants:

Roscoe L. Egger, Jr., chairman, Federal Government Executive Com-
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William Freitag, chairman, health care matters.
American Lung Association, William F. Roberts, acting managing director_
American Osteopathic College of Pathologists, Inc., Allan R. Fox, presi-

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American Osteopathic College of Radiology, Martin S. Landis, president__
American Osteopathic Hospital Association, Michael F. Doody, president__
American Physical Therapy Association, Robert A. Teckemeyer, associate

executive director professional relations_ American Society for Medical TechnologyAmerican Society of Clinical Pathologists_

American Society of Internal Medicine, William P. Daines, M.D_
American Society of Oral Surgeons___
American Speech and Hearing Association--
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California Medical Association_.

Catholic Hospital Association__

Caylor-Nickel Hospital, Inc., Charles H. Caylor, M.D., president_.
Center on Social Welfare Policy and Law___

Chamber of Commerce of the United States, Jan Peter Ozga__
Committee for a Federal Health Bank...

Crowley, David, executive vice president of the Association of Homes for

the Aging

Daines, William P., M.D., American Society of Internal Medicine
Doody, Michael F., president, American Osteopathic Hospital Association___
Egger, Roscoe L., Jr., chairman, Federal Government executive committee,

American Institute of Certified Public Accountants____
Federal Trade Commission, Michael Pertschuk, chairman_

Fox, Allan R., president, American Osteopathic College of Pathologists___
Freitag, William, chairman, health care matters, American Institute of
Certified Public Accounts___.

Gaspar, Haro'd E., M.D., P.A___

Goldbeck, Willis B., director, Washington Business Group on Health___ Hale, Randolph M., vice president and manager, Industrial Relations Department, National Association of Manufacturers--

Hawaii Medical Service Association, Albert H. Yuen, executive vice presi

dent

Health System Agency of Southwestern Pennsylvania, Matthew Marshall,
Jr., M.D., secretary, board of directors---

Homemakers Home and Health Care Services, Ronald E. Rosenberg, vice
president of planning and development__
Hospital Association of New York State.

Hospital Financial Management Association_

Landis, Martin S., president, American Osteopathic College of Radiology--
Marshall, Matthew J., M.D., secretary, board of directors, Health System

Agency of Southwestern Pennsylvania___

Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary, Charles T. Wood, director_
National Association of Children's Hospitals and Related Institutions,

Robert H. Sweeney, executive director--

National Association of Manufacturers, Industrial Relations Department,

Randolph M. Hale, vice president and manager.

Nightletter for American Medicine, Robert L. Weinmann, M.D., editor and

publisher

Ozga, Jan Peter, Chamber of Commerce of the United States---
Personnel Pool of America, Inc., John B. Smith, legal and legislative coun-

sel, Medical Personnel Pool Division___ Public Citizen's Health Research Group

Roberts, William F., acting managing director, American Lung Association_
Rosenberg, Ronald E., vice president of planning and development, Home-

makers Home and Health Care Services__.

Schwartz, Ronald D---

Scott, Michael, of Cox, Langford & Brown, counsel to ASA..

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Teckemeyer, Robert A., associate executive director, professional relations,

American Physical Therapy Association__

Washington Business Group on Health, Willis B. Goldbeck, director---
Weinmann, Robert L., editor and publisher, Nightletter for American
Medicine

Wessner, Kenneth T., president and chief executive officer, Servicemaster
Industries, Inc.

Wood, Charles T., director, Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary_.
Yuen, Albert H., executive vice president, Hawaii Medical Service Asso-
ciation

APPENDIXES

Appendix A-Communications received by the committee expressing an in-
terest in these hearings_____

Appendix B-Health Care Expenditures and Their Control, the Health
Staff, Education and Public Welfare Division, Congressional Research
Service, Library of Congress__-

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Committee press release announcing these hearings.
Text of the bill, S. 1470___.

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MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ADMINISTRATION AND REIMBURSEMENT REFORM ACT

TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 1977

U.S. SENATE,
SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH OF THE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 8:35 a.m., in room 2221, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Herman E. Talmadge (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Senators Talmadge, Dole, and Danforth.

Senator TALMADGE. The subcommittee will come to order. Today, we begin 4 days of hearings on S. 1470, the Medicare and Medicaid Administrative and Reimbursement Reform Act. S. 1470, which I introduced joined by Senators Long, Ribicoff, Dole, and 16 other colleagues, is the successor proposal to S. 3205 of the last Congress. S. 3205 was the subject of 5 days of hearings last July.

[The committee press release announcing these hearings and the bill S. 1470 follows:]

[Press release, Committee on Finance, Subcommittee on Health]

FINANCE COMMITTEE ANNOUNCES HEARING ON MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ADMINISTRATIVE AND REIMBURSEMENT REFORM

Senator Herman E. Talmadge (D., Ga.), Chairman of the Subcommittee on Health of the Senate Finance Committee, announced today that the Subcommittee will hold a hearing in early June on the various Medicare and Medicaid administrative and reimbursement reform provisions of S. 1470, introduced by Senator Talmadge on May 5, is cosponsored by a total of 19 Senators.

The hearing will be held beginning at 8:30 a.m. each day beginning June 7 through June 10 in Room 2221, Dirksen Senate Office Building.

Senator Talmadge stated: "S. 1470 is an improved version of S. 3205, a similar proposal introduced in the last Congress. The present bill incorporates constructive testimony received last year during five days of hearings on S. 3205. S. 1470 is designed to deal with, among other things, the problem of the continued explosion in the costs of the Medicare-Medicaid programs. Last year, I pointed out that those programs would cost Federal and State taxpayers more than $38 billion in fiscal 1977. Bad as that was, just one year later these programs are estimated to cost Federal and State governments more than $47 billion in fiscal 1978." Senator Talmadge said, with respect to soaring health costs: "The Congress and the Administration share a common concern; however, I believe we can best control costs by providing hospitals with equitable incentives and with the right kind of penalties."

Requests to testify.-Senator Talmadge advised that witnesses desiring to testify during this hearing make their request to testify to Michael Stern, Staff Director, Committee on Finance, 2227 Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C. 20510, not later than Friday, May 27, 1977. Witnesses will be notified as soon as possible after this date as to when they are scheduled to appear.

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