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SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES
APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1997

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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE OFER

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FOURTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois, Chairman

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida

HENRY BONILLA, Texas

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma

DAN MILLER, Florida

DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland
NANCY PELOSI, California
NITA M. LOWEY, New York

JAY DICKEY, Arkansas

FRANK RIGGS, California

ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi

NOTE: Under Committee Rules, Mr. Livingston, as Chairman of the Full Committee, and Mr. Obey, as Ranking
Minority Member of the Full Committee, are authorized to sit as Members of all Subcommittees.

S. ANTHONY MCCANN, ROBERT L. KNISELY, SUSAN E. QUANTIUS, MICHAEL K. MYERS,
and JOANNE L. ORNDORFF, Subcommittee Staff

PART 7

TESTIMONY OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHER

INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS

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SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES
APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1997

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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FOURTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois, Chairman

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida

HENRY BONILLA, Texas

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma

DAN MILLER, Florida

JAY DICKEY, Arkansas

FRANK RIGGS, California

ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi

DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland
NANCY PELOSI, California
NITA M. LOWEY, New York

NOTE: Under Committee Rules, Mr. Livingston, as Chairman of the Full Committee, and Mr. Obey, as Ranking
Minority Member of the Full Committee, are authorized to sit as Members of all Subcommittees.

S. ANTHONY MCCANN, ROBERT L. KNISELY, SUSAN E. QUANTIUS, MICHAEL K. MYERS,
and JOANNE L. ORNDORFF, Subcommittee Staff

PART 7

TESTIMONY OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHER
INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS

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JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
JERRY LEWIS, California

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
JOE SKEEN, New Mexico
FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
TOM DELAY, Texas

JIM KOLBE, Arizona

BARBARA F. VUCANOVICH, Nevada

JIM LIGHTFOOT, Iowa

RON PACKARD, California
SONNY CALLAHAN, Alabama
JAMES T. WALSH, New York

CHARLES H. TAYLOR, North Carolina
DAVID L. HOBSON, Ohio

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma
HENRY BONILLA, Texas

JOE KNOLLENBERG, Michigan
DAN MILLER, Florida

JAY DICKEY, Arkansas

JACK KINGSTON, Georgia

FRANK RIGGS, California

MIKE PARKER, Mississippi

RODNEY P. FRELINGHUYSEN, New Jersey ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi

MICHAEL P. FORBES, New York

GEORGE R. NETHERCUTT, JR., Washington JIM BUNN, Oregon

MARK W. NEUMANN, Wisconsin

DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
TOM BEVILL, Alabama

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
CHARLES WILSON, Texas
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
JIM CHAPMAN, Texas

MARCY KAPTUR, Ohio

DAVID E. SKAGGS, Colorado

NANCY PELOSI, California

PETER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana

THOMAS M. FOGLIETTA, Pennsylvania

ESTEBAN EDWARD TORRES, California
NITA M. LOWEY, New York
RAY THORNTON, Arkansas
JOSÉ E. SERRANO, New York

JAMES W. DYER, Clerk and Staff Director

DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND

HUMAN SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RE

LATED

AGENCIES
AGENCIES

APPROPRIATIONS

FOR

1997

TESTIMONY OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHER
INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS

TUESDAY. FEBRUARY 27, 1996.

Mr. PORTER. The subcommittee will come to order.

This morning the subcommittee begins its hearings on the fiscal year 1997 appropriations bill. These hearings again break new ground, as they are occurring both without a final fiscal year 1996 appropriations bill and also without a complete President's request for fiscal year 1997.

Let me begin by thanking the members of the subcommittee for their patience during the lengthy consideration of the 1996 bill. As you know, much of the delay has been occasioned by the failure in the other body to take up the legislation and pass it. And as you're also aware, I've been working with Chairman Arlen Specter to reach accommodation on many issues in disagreement between the House-passed and the Senate reported versions of the bill. We have been conferring informally regarding those differences and made substantial progress in resolving many of them. While this work may not succeed in resurrecting the House bill H.R. 2127, most of the agreements will be incorporated into any omnibus bill that may be forthcoming to complete actions on the remaining appropriation bills that will then be available for consideration by the subcommittee and, of course, the full committee and the full House.

We are, of course, under great pressure to complete our work on the fiscal year 1997 bill by the beginning of the fiscal year. As a result, we are beginning our work today in advance of the presentation of the President's budget with public witnesses. We will next hear from the smaller related agencies under our jurisdiction, and then we will hear from the larger departments-the Department of Health and Human Services first, then the Department of Labor, and then the Department of Education.

As there has been significant interest in program duplication both in the departments within our jurisdiction and in departments and agencies outside our jurisdiction, I've scheduled a hearing on programs providing substance abuse prevention and treatment that will encompass both programs that we fund and programs funded by other subcommittees. I hope that this hearing will provide an overview of these multiple programs and allow us to get a better

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