Senator NYE. Before Mr. Albers leaves the stand. For very obvious reasons I have refrained from entering into this examination. Before Mr. Albers is excused I am almost forced to ask a question to qualify certain testimony which has been offered here this morning. Mr. Albers, you have testified that in your work at Cooperstown you were as anxious to talk to friends of mine as to those who might be politically opposed to me, have you not? Mr. ALBERS. Yes; surely. Senator NYE. You didn't limit your inquiries to one side or the other, politically speaking? Mr. ALBERS. Well, I really had no way of limiting that. Senator NYE. You were extremely anxious to know who stood very close to me, were you not? Mr. ALBERS. Who knew you well? Senator NYE. Who knew me well? Senator NYE. How could you be in Cooperstown as long as you were, without being informed that perhaps as good a friend as I had in Cooperstown was the man who succeeded me as editor of the newspaper which I published for a number of years, Mr. Thompson? Did you make any effort at all to get in touch with Mr. Thompson, editor of that paper? Mr. ALBERS. I did not. Senator NYE. Any effort to get in touch with anyone connected with the newspaper? Mr. ALBERS. No; not that paper. Senator NYE. I didn't get the answer. Mr. ALBERS. No; not that paper. Senator NYE. Any effort to interview the members of the board of directors of that paper? Mr. ALBERS. No, sir. Senator NYE Wouldn't that indicate you didn't make a very thorough inquiry as to who my friends might be? Mr. ALBERS. I had not made a real thorough inquiry. Senator NYE. That is all. The CHAIRMAN. The committee hearing is adjourned subject to call of the chairman. (Whereupon, at 12.10 o'clock p. m., the committee adjourned subject to the call of the chair.) EXHIBIT A W. C. Dannenberg, civil and criminal investigations. 111 West Monroe Street, Chicago; telephone, Randolph 4256. C. C. Albers, assistant. SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN EXPENDITURES, 1930 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 1930 UNITED STATES SENATE, SENATE COMMITTEE ON SENATORIAL, CAMPAIGN EXPENDITURES, Chicago, Ill. The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10 o'clock a. m., in room 637, Federal Building, Senator Gerald P. Nye, chairman, presiding. Present: Senator Nye (chairman), Senator Porter H. Dale. The CHAIRMAN. Let the committee be in order. The committee, consisting in this instance of a subcommittee consisting of the chairman and Senator Dale, upon this morning saw fit to issue certain subpœnaes calling for the appearance of witnesses before this committee this morning. We are here now to hear these witnesses or to hear them as fast as they can be located and served. Among those called for to-day was Harold Walker. Is Harold Walker in the room? (No response.) C. Clark Albers, George Herda, Joe Bumford, John E. Dannenberg, Earl Dannenberg, W. C. Dannenberg, Rose Maurer, Edward Altz, Gordon Hendricks, and others. None of those called or subpoenaed appears to have reported at their customary place of business this morning. Since this developed a subpoena has been drawn and served upon Alice Klober. Is Alice Klober present? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Miss Klober, we shall ask you to take the stand at this time. Will you be sworn, please? TESTIMONY OF MRS. ALICE KLOBER (The witness was duly sworn by the chairman.) The CHAIRMAN. Your name is Miss Klober? Mrs. KLOBER. Mrs. Klober. The CHAIRMAN. Mrs. Alice Klober? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Your residence is where? Mrs. KLOBER. No. 114712 North Austin Boulevard. The CHAIRMAN. Are you employed at this time? Mrs. KLOBER. Well, I started to-day. The CHAIRMAN. You started to-day? Mrs. KLOBER. For a temporary position; yes. The CHAIRMAN. When were you engaged to take that employment? Mrs. KLOBER. Saturday. The CHAIRMAN. Did you go to the offices where you are employed? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I was called. The CHAIRMAN. You were called? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Had you ever been in these offices before? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes; I worked there. I worked off and on since I was married, but I worked there permanently before for two years. The CHAIRMAN. And you were asked, Mrs. Klober, on Saturday by telephone to report for duty Tuesday morning? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. By whom were you so requested to report? The CHAIRMAN. How do you spell it? Mrs. KLOBER. M-a-u-r-e-r. The CHAIRMAN. Who was Rose Maurer? Mrs. KLOBER. She is the stenographer there, the secretary. The CHAIRMAN. The regular stenographer and secretary, do you say? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Then you went to the office this morning? The CHAIRMAN. How did you get into the office? The CHAIRMAN. You had a key? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. When was the key given to you? Mrs. KLOBER. Miss Maurer brought it to me yesterday. The CHAIRMAN. She brought it to you yesterday? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Where is Miss Maurer? Mrs. KLOBER. She is away visiting her sister. The CHAIRMAN. When did she leave? Mrs. KLOBER. I don't know just when she left. Probably it was Sunday or yesterday. The CHAIRMAN. If she saw you herself and gave you the key yesterday, she surely could not have left Sunday. Mrs. KLOBER. Well, she probably left in the evening. I do not know when she left. She brought it to me in the late afternoon. The CHAIRMAN. Do you know where Miss Maurer lives? Mrs. KLOBER. I know it is on the north side, but I could not say just where. The CHAIRMAN. Do you know what street she lives on? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I could not say. The CHAIRMAN. Have you ever been at her place? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I have not. It is on the near north side. The CHAIRMAN. On the near north side? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. How long has Miss Maurer been employed by this employer? Mrs. KLOBER. About two years. The CHAIRMAN. Who is her employer? Mrs. KLOBER. W. C. Dannenberg. The CHAIRMAN. W. C. Dannenberg? The CHAIRMAN. And you now are in the employ of W. C. Dannenberg? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes; until she returns. The CHAIRMAN. How long do you expect this employment to continue? Mrs. KLOBER. Well, probably a week. The CHAIRMAN. A week? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Miss Maurer has indicated then that she will be back after a week? Mrs. KLOBER. Probably; yes. The CHAIRMAN. When Miss Maurer gave you the key to the office yesterday, what instructions were given to you? Mrs. KLOBER. Just that I was to come down to take her place until she came back. The CHAIRMAN. In the course of the conversation, when she turned the key over to you yesterday, did she say anything about who would be down to the office this morning? Mrs. KLOBER. No; she did not. The CHAIRMAN. Did she say that none of the people who customarily make that their headquarters would be there to-day? Mrs. KLOBER. She did not say anything about that, only I was to let myself in the office. The CHAIRMAN. Were you in that office yesterday? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I was not. The CHAIRMAN. What appearing sort of a woman is Miss Maurer? Can you describe her for us? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. She is rather short, about medium build, black hair, sort of grey eyes. That is about all I can say. The CHAIRMAN. About how tall is she? Mrs. KLOBER. Oh, she is about 5 foot 1, I think. The CHAIRMAN. Did not she indicate to you yesterday that she had been at the office yesterday? Mrs. KLOBER. No; she did not. The CHAIRMAN. Have you often been called in in emergency cases of this kind by the Dannenberg people? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I have not. I usually know before time three or four days. This time I only knew Saturday. The CHAIRMAN. How long since you have been employed in that office? Mrs. KLOBER. You mean permanently? The CHAIRMAN. No; when was the last time you were employed by the Dannenberg people? Mrs. KLOBER. I think it was in June. Miss Maurer was ill. Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Of this year? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. What was the nature of your work there while Miss Maurer was ill? Mrs. KLOBER. I wrote out reports and answered the telephone, took dictation; general work. The CHAIRMAN. Did you have stenographic note books that you took your dictation in? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. From which you transcribed your writings? The CHAIRMAN. Does that practice still prevail, so far as you know? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. What was done with the stenographic note books from time to time? Mrs. KLOBER. That I could not say. The CHAIRMAN. Did you retain them? Mrs. KLOBER. No. The CHAIRMAN. Or did the agency retain them? Mrs. KLOBER. I left them at the office. The CHAIRMAN. What sort of method do you use in your shorthand work; is it the Gregg system? Mrs. KLOBER. No; it is the Munson. The CHAIRMAN. Do you know what system Miss Maurer uses? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I do not. The_CHAIRMAN. Did you yesterday or to-day see any one of the three Dannenbergs whose names you heard read here this morning! Mrs. KLOBER. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. John Dannenberg, you have not seen? Mrs. KLOBER. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Earl Dannenberg? Mrs. KLOBER. No. The CHAIRMAN. W. C. Dannenberg? Mrs. KLOBER. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any knowledge where they are? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I do not. The CHAIRMAN. Were you not rather concerned about the failure of any of them to put in an appearance at the office this morning! Mrs. KLOBER. No; that is not unusual. They usually come in very late. The CHAIRMAN. They usually come in late, do they? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Do you know where they live? Mrs. KLOBER. No; I do not. The CHAIRMAN. In the work in the office, when you have been there in times past, when telephone calls came in, was any record made of those calls? Mrs. KLOBER. You mean a permanent record? The CHAIRMAN. No; memorandums. Mrs. KLOBER. Yes; memorandums are always made. The CHAIRMAN. Upon what colored paper were these memorandums written? Mrs. KLOBER. Oh, different paper, white or yellow. We did not have any special paper. The CHAIRMAN. Is there anyone at the office now? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Who is at the office? Mrs. KLOBER. Kenneth Wilson. The CHAIRMAN. Kenneth Wilson? Mrs. KLOBER. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Who is Kenneth Wilson? |