HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT, MANPOWER, AND POVERTY

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE

UNITED STATES SENATE

NINETIETH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

MANPOWER IMPLICATIONS OF SELECTIVE SERVICE

MARCH 20, 21, 22, 23, AND APRIL 4, 5, AND 6, 1967

UNIVERSITY ORDORNIA

COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE

LISTER HILL, Alabama, Chairman

WAYNE MORSE, Oregon

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York RALPH YARBOROUGH, Texas

WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont JOSEPH S. CLARK, Pennsylvania

PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia GEORGE MURPHY, Callfornia HARRISON A. WILLIAMS, JR., New Jersey PAUL J. FANNIN, Arizona CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island

ROBERT P. GRIFFIN, Michigan
EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts
GAYLORD NELSON, Wisconsin
ROBERT F. KENNEDY, New York

STEWART E. MCCLURE, Chief Clerk
JOHN S. FORSYTHE, General Counsel
EUGENE MITTELMAN, Minority Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT, MANPOWER, AND POVERTY

JOSEPH S. CLARK, Pennsylvania, Chairman JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York
EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts GEORGE MURPHY, California
GAYLORD NELSON, Wisconsin
ROBERT F. KENNEDY, New York

WILLIAM C. SMITH, Counsel
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CONTENTS

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

March 20, 1967

Pago

7

29

58 97

117

Lt. Gen. Lewis B. Hershey, Director, Selective Service System, accom

panied by Col. Bernard T. Franck III, Chief, Office of Legislation

and Liaison.. Thomas D. Morris, Assistant Secretary of Defense (Manpower), accom

panied by Harold Wool, Director, Procurement Policy and General Re-
search, Office of Assistant Secretary of Defense (Manpower), and Frank
Bartimo, Assistant General Counsel (Manpower).

March 21, 1967
Hon. W. Willard Wirtz, Secretary of Labor.--
Donald J. Eberly, Executive Director of the National Service Secretariat..

March 22, 1967
Hon. William Gorham, Assistant Secretary for Program Coordination,

Department of Health, Education, and Welfare..
Burke Marshall, Chairman, National Advisory Commission on Selective

Service, accompanied by: Bradley Patterson, Staff Director, National
Advisory Commission on Selective Service ---

March 23, 1967
Sargent Shriver, Director, Office of Economic Opportunity, accompanied

by David Gottlieb, Associate Director, Plans Programs, Job Corps;
William H. Crook, Assistant Director, VISTA; and Robinson Hollister,
Chief, Research and Plans, Office of Economic Opportunity--

APRIL 4, 1967
Morris Bunch, Freddie Finch, William M. Stokes, accompanied by

Vernon E. Hawkins (a panel) -
Ronald Corder, Wesley Livingston and Stephen Soraka (a panel)
Don Morrison, Chuck Sable, Tom Myles, Carolyn Carter and Anthony
Gittens (a panel)---

APRIL 5, 1967
Harold Howe II, United States Commissioner of Education --

128

152

180 188

193

212

APRIL 6, 1967
Milton Friedman, Professor of Economics, University of Chicago..
Arlo Tatum, Executive Secretary of the Committee for Conscientious

Ohjectors

232

246

STATEMENTS

Bunch, Morris, Freddie Finch, William M. Stokes, accompanied by

Vernon E. Hawkins (a panel) -
Corder, Ronald, Wesley Livingston and Stephen Soraka (a panel).-
Eberly, Donald J., Executive Director of the National Service Secretariat.
Friedman, Milton, professor of economics, University of Chicago..