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ENERGY AND COMMERCE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS

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COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE

JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan, Chairman

JAMES H. SCHEUER, New York
RICHARD L. OTTINGER, New York
HENRY A. WAXMAN, California
TIMOTHY E. WIRTH, Colorado
PHILIP R. SHARP, Indiana

JAMES J. FLORIO, New Jersey

ANTHONY TOBY MOFFETT, Connecticut

JIM SANTINI, Nevada

EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts
THOMAS A. LUKEN, Ohio
DOUG WALGREN, Pennsylvania
ALBERT GORE, JR., Tennessee

BARBARA A. MIKULSKI, Maryland
RONALD M. MOTTL, Ohio
PHIL GRAMM, Texas
AL SWIFT, Washington
MICKEY LELAND, Texas

RICHARD C. SHELBY, Alabama
CARDISS COLLINS, Illinois
MIKE SYNAR, Oklahoma

W. J. "BILLY" TAUZIN, Louisiana
RON WYDEN, Oregon

RALPH M. HALL, Texas

JAMES T. BROYHILL, North Carolina
CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio
JAMES M. COLLINS, Texas
NORMAN F. LENT, New York

EDWARD R. MADIGAN, Illinois
CARLOS J. MOORHEAD, California
MATTHEW J. RINALDO, New Jersey
MARC L. MARKS, Pennsylvania
TOM CORCORAN, Illinois
GARY A. LEE, New York

WILLIAM E. DANNEMEYER, California
BOB WHITTAKER, Kansas
THOMAS J. TAUKE, Iowa
DON RITTER, Pennsylvania
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
CLEVE BENEDICT, West Virginia
DAN COATS, Indiana

THOMAS J. BLILEY, JR., Virginia

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DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES OVERSIGHT

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1982

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIght and InveSTIGATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 a.m., in room 2322, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Albert Gore, Jr., presiding (Hon. John D. Dingell, chairman).

Mr. GORE. The subcommittee will come to order.

Chairman John Dingell is in an urgent meeting with the Secretary of Transportation because of the rail strike, which is affecting large areas of this country, as all here know, and he will be briefly delayed and will be with us shortly. At this point I would like to read his opening statement.

The Committee on Energy and Commerce has legislative responsibility for health programs-the Public Health Service and the Health Care Financing Administration. The Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations has a duty to review the programs under the jurisdiction of the committee, looking at the policies and the operations.

This hearing marks one of the subcommittee's periodic inquiries into the operation of the Department of Health and Human Services. For many of our hearings we invite the administrators of individual programs, the scientists, and the professionals, but it is also necessary and very useful to hear from the chief policymaker.

When the subcommittee wrote to Secretary Schweiker about this hearing, he was provided in advance with a list of 24 topics of interest to members of the subcommittee. Because we have the chief policymaker of the Department before the subcommittee for only 2 hours and cannot complete our questions on all of the matters of concern, we have selected a few topics for special attention.

At the time that the Secretary was invited, none of us had any indication that the administration was considering a massive cut in medicare benefits. Over this past weekend, the press has reported that, in addition to earlier attempts to restrict social security, the administration is planning a means test for medicare.

Millions of Americans have invested in the medicare program, and we have just amended the law so that Federal employees, as well, will be contributing for their own to medicare. People have put their money into the medicare fund so that when they turn 65 they will have the kind of benefits that protect them from poverty.

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