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ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS

TOM BLILEY, VIRGINIA, CHAIRMAN

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JOHN D. DINGELL, MICHIGAN

HENRY A WAXMAN, CALIFORNIA
EDWARD J. MARKEY, MASSACHUSETTS
RALPH M. HALL TEXAS

RICK BOUCHER. VIRGINIA

THOMAS ↓ MANTON, NEW YORK
EDOLPHUS TOWNS. NEW YORK
FRANK PALLONE. JR. NEW JERSEY
SHEAROO BROWN, OHIO
BART GORDON. TENNESSEE
ZABETH FURSE, OREGON
PETER DEUTSCH FLORIDA
BOBBY L RUSH. ILLINOIS
ANNA G. ESHOO, CALIFORNIA
RON KLINK, PENNSYLVANIA
BART STUPAK, MICHIGAN
ELIOT ENGEL NEW YORK
OHIO

THOMAS C. SAWYER
ALBERT

R WYNN. MARYLAND
GENE GREEN. TEXAS

KAREN MCCARTHY MISSOURI
TED STRICKLAND, OHIO

DIANA DIGETTE. COLORADO

JAMES E. DERDERIAN, CHIEF OF STAFF

The Honorable Janet Yellen

Chair

Council of Economic Advisors
Old Executive Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20502

Dear Dr. Yellen:

U.S. House of Representatives

Committee on Commerce

Room 2125, Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515–6115

March 26, 1998

Thank you for your testimony before Subcommittee on Energy and Power on March 4, 1998 regarding the Kyoto Protocol and its Economic Implications. Your participation was helpful in assisting Members' understanding of the overall terms, objectives, and implementation of the Kyoto Protocol.

As you will recall from that hearing, however, I requested in my opening statement that you provide to the Subcommittee a complete analysis of the Administration's conclusions presented in your testimony. As you undoubtedly are aware, this information is of great importance to Subcommittee Members, many of whom had questions regarding the specifics relating to the Administration's analysis of the economic effects of the Kyoto Protocol that went unanswered during the hearing.

It is my understanding that the economic analysis I have requested has already been completed. After all, this analysis presumably served as the basis for the findings included in your March 5 testimony. Though your response to this particular request was due last week, I appreciate the multiple and challenging demands faced by you and your staff, and I understand that you have been out of the country in recent days. Given CEA's track record in responding to my requests, however, I am concerned that last week's missed deadline may now become a perpetually moving target. Accordingly, I ask that you provide the data that supports the economic analysis by no later than next Wednesday, April 1.

Thank you for your cooperation on this matter. If you have any questions concerning this outstanding request, please contact Ms. Catherine Van Way of the Commerce Committee staff at 225-2927.

innarely,

Dan Schaefer

Chairman

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Subcommittee on Energy and Power

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The Honorable Ralph Hall, Ranking Member
Subcommittee on Energy and Power

CHIEF OF STAFF

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS

WASHINGTON DC. 20500

March 18, 1998

Dear Cathy:

In accordance with our discussion, I am writing to let you know that the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) will not be submitting today materials responsive to Chairman Schaefer's March 4 request. As you know, Chairman Schaefer in his opening statement at the Subcommittee's March 4 hearing on the Kyoto Protocol and its Economic Implications asked CEA Chair Janet Yellen to provide a complete analysis of the conclusions presented in her testimony.

As we discussed, Dr. Yellen is out of the country this week and will be leading the US delegation to OECD meetings in Paris next week. CEA staff are currently working on the response to Chairman Schaefer's request. As I am sure you understand, because we are a small agency, these staff are also responsible for continuing their usual policy and analytic responsibilities, as well as responding to several other requests from Congress on climate change issues. They are making every effort, in the context of these other demands, to be responsive to Chairman Schafer. We will be in a better position to respond once Dr. Yellen returns.

If you have any questions, please let me know at (202) 395-5084.

Sincerely,

Michele glin

Michele Jolin

Ms. Cathy Van Way
Counsel

Subcommittee on Energy and Power.
House Committee on Commerce
Washington, D.C. 20515-6115

ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS

TOM BULEY, VIRGINIA, CHAIRMAN

W.J. "BILLY" TAUZIN, LOUISIANA
MICHAEL G. OXLEY, OHIO
MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, FLORIDA
DAN SCHAEFER, COLORADO
JOE BARTON, TEXAS

J. DENNIS HASTERT, ILLINOIS

FRED UPTON, MICHIGAN
CLIFF STEARNS. FLORIDA
BILL PAXON, NEW YORK
PAUL E. GILLMOR, OHIO

SCOTT L. KLUG. WISCONSIN

JAMES C. GREENWOOD, PENNSYLVANIA
MICHAEL D. CRAPO, IDAHO
CHRISTOPHER COX, CALIFORNIA
NATHAN DEAL, GEORGIA
STEVE LARGENT, OKLAHOMA
RICHARD BURR, NORTH CAROLINA
BRIAN P. BILBRAY, CALIFORNIA
ED WHITFIELD, KENTUCKY
GREG GANSKE, IOWA

CHARLIE NORWOOD, GEORGIA
RICK WHITE. WASHINGTON

TOM COBURN, OKLAHOMA

RICK LAZIO, NEW YORK

BARBARA CUBIN, WYOMING
JAMES E. ROGAN, CALIFORNIA
JOHN SHIMKUS, ILLINOIS

JOHN D. DINGELL, MICHIGAN
HENRY A WAXMAN, CALIFORNIA
EDWARD J. MARKEY, MASSACHUSETTS
RALPH M. HALL, TEXAS

RICK BOUCHER, VIRGINIA
THOMAS J. MANTON, NEW YORK
EDOLPHUS TOWNS, NEW YORK
FRANK PALLONE. JR, NEW JERSEY
SHERROD BROWN, OHIO
BART GORDON, TENNESSEE
ELIZABETH FURSE, OREGON
PETER DEUTSCH, FLORIDA
BOBBY L RUSH, ILLINOIS
ANNA G. ESHOO, CALIFORNIA
RON KLINK, PENNSYLVANIA
BART STUPAK, MICHIGAN
ELIOT L. ENGEL, NEW YORK
THOMAS SAWYER, OHIO
ALBERT R. WYNN, MARYLAND
GENE GREEN, TEXAS

KAREN MCCARTHY, MISSOURI

TED STRICKLAND, OHIO

DIANA DEGETTE. COLORADO

JAMES E. DERDERIAN, CHIEF OF STAFF

U.S. House of Representatives

Committee on Commerce

Room 2125, Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-6115

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE DAN SCHAEFER
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND POWER

HEARING ON THE KYOTO PROTOCOL AND ITS ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS

MARCH 4, 1998

I'd like to welcome everyone to today's hearing on the Kyoto Protocol and its economic implications.

Unfortunately, after 6 hearings, my concerns about where the Administration is headed with this agreement seem to increase rather than decrease with every time we have an opportunity to look closely at the domestic implications of this issue.

Today I hope to focus my questions on the results of the economic analysis contained in the prepared testimony for today. Last July, the Administration released a document at least 59 people across the Administration spent nearly two years developing. That economic analysis determined the cost of stabilizing greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by the year 2010 would require the equivalent of a $95 per ton carbon tax. The day that document was made public the Administration called it a "flawed" effort.

Today we are presented with the result of analysis conducted, I presume, in the three months post-Kyoto that, apparently using at least one of the same models used in the previous analysis, produces vastly different results for a more ambitious target, $14-23 per ton of carbon.

What disturbs me the most about this outcome is it appears to be based on assumptions about the outcome of future negotiations that may never materialize. To

be specific: according to Ms. Yellen's testimony, the cost of complying with the Kyoto Protocol is reduced between 50 and 75 per cent if there is efficient international emissions trading. However, the details of emissions trading are, unfortunately, one of the things the Administration has left to work out in a future negotiation. And other parties to this agreement and non-governmental groups are already positioning themselves to place as many restrictions as possible on emissions trading. In this context, I would remind you of the history of joint implementation. The Rio Treaty provides for it, but in subsequent negotiations the promise it held for significantly reducing costs of compliance proved hollow when it was limited to developed countries only.

Similarly, Ms. Yellen's testimony notes that the cost of compliance is further reduced if we can secure full participation by developing countries in the emissions trading markets. I am extremely disturbed if this was relied upon to reach the cost prediction in today's testimony because with respect to meaningful developing country commitments under the Kyoto Protocol: it is a done deal and they don't have any.

In order for us to fully analyze the Administration's economic analysis and the assumptions used, I am formally requesting that the Administration provide to this Subcommittee, no later than two weeks from today, the complete analysis of the conclusions presented in today's testimony, any other economic analysis that was done that reached different conclusions, and I ask that the Administration send its analysis out for peer review. The reason why understanding this analysis is so important was highlighted in an article that appeared in the Washington Post this morning: Robert Stavins, an economist at Harvard noted: the impact can be relatively small if done in the smartest possible way. "But if we don't do it that way it will cost 10 times what the Administration is saying."

Finally, I am pleased that the Administration is supportive of the idea of electricity restructuring. I too believe it will bring real savings to electricity consumers. Unfortunately, it is becoming clear to me that the Administration support restructuring as a way to mask the costs of complying with this treaty from American consumers. As I stated at the last hearing I would like the benefits of restructuring to flow to the consumers and not be spent buying emissions credits from a foreign government.

I hope today the Administration can answer our questions about the agreement in a straightforward manner. I look forward to the testimony and exploring all of these issues during the question and answer period.

Thank you.

ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS

TOM BLILEY, VIRGINIA CHAIRMAN

W.J. "BILLY" TAUZIN. LOUISIANA
MICHAEL G. OXLEY OHIO
MICHAEL BILIRAKIS. FLORIDA
DAN SCHAEFER, COLORADO
JOE BARTON, TEXAS

J. DENNIS HASTERT, ILLINOIS

FRED UPTON, MICHIGAN

CLIFF STEARNS, FLORIDA
BILL PAXON. NEW YORK

PAUL E. GILLMOR, OHIO

SCOTT L. KLUG. WISCONSIN

JAMES C. GREENWOOD. PENNSYLVANIA
MICHAEL D. CRAPO, IDAHO
CHRISTOPHER COX. CALIFORNIA
NATHAN DEAL GEORGIA
STEVE LARGENT, OKLAHOMA
RICHARD BURR, NORTH CAROLINA
BRIAN P. BILBRAY, CALIFORNIA
ED WHITFIELD, KENTUCKY
GREG GANSKE, IOWA

CHARLIE NORWOOD, GEORGIA
RICK WHITE, WASHINGTON

TOM COBURN, OKLAHOMA

RICK LAZIO, NEW YORK

BARBARA CUBIN WYOMING
JAMES E ROGAN, CALIFORNIA

JOHN SHIMKUS, ILLINOIS

JOHN D. DINGELL, MICHIGAN

HENRY A. WAXMAN, CALIFORNIA

EDWARD J MARKEY, MASSACHUSETTS
RALPH M HALL, TEXAS

RICK BOUCHER. VIRGINIA

THOMAS J. MANTON, NEW YORK
EDOLPHUS TOWNS, NEW YORK
FRANK PALLONE. NEW JERSEY
SHERROD BROWN, OHIO
BART GORDON, TENNESSEE
ELIZABETH FURSE, OREGON
PETER DEUTSCH, FLORIDA
808BY L RUSH, ILLINOIS
ANNA G. ESHOO CALIFORNIA
RON KLINK, PENNSYLVANIA
BART STUPAK, MICHIGAN
ELIOT L ENGEL. NEW YORK
THOMAS C. SAWYER, OHIO
ALBERT R. WYNN, MARYLAND
GENE GREEN, TEXAS
KAREN MCCARTHY, MISSOURI
TED STRICKLAND, OHIO
DIANA DEGETTE. COLORADO

JAMES E DERDERIAN, CHIEF OF STAFF

U.S. House of Representatives
Committee on Commerce

Room 2125, Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-6115

April 9, 1998

The Honorable Janet Yellen
Chair

Council of Economic Advisors
Old Executive Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20502

Dear Dr. Yellen:

I am writing to request for the third time, the documents and other materials supporting your testimony before the Subcommittee on Energy and Power more than a month ago.

At the Subcommittee hearing held March 4, 1998, you presented conclusions regarding the cost of complying with the Kyoto Mandate. At that hearing, I requested that you provide the Subcommittee with the analysis that supported those conclusions, as well as any other economic analysis that reached different conclusions, not later than two weeks after the conclusion of the hearing (opening statement attached). Your staff requested an extension of time within which to respond, which I agreed to (letter attached). That time again was extended by my letter to you requesting the relevant information by no later than April 1, 1998 (letter attached). I still do not have the documents I requested.

In order for the Subcommittee to adequately assess your conclusions, the Subcommittee must be able to review the data and analysis supporting those conclusions. At the hearing you presented certain conclusions. I am merely asking that you provide me with the analysis on which you based those conclusions. I do not believe it is unreasonable for the Subcommittee to ask you to support your testimony and, thus, your apparent reluctance to provide this information only heightens my concern over the validity of the Administration's analysis. Moreover, you should already have in your possession all the information I am requesting. I do not expect your office to create new data, documents or analysis to support the conclusions presented at the hearing.

Please be advised that if I have not received a full and complete response to my request by Wednesday, April 15, 1998, I will consider pursuing other legal means to obtain the information.

Thank you for your cooperation on this matter. If you have any questions concerning this outstanding request, please contact Ms. Catherine Van Way of the Commerce Committee staff at 225-2927.

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