to be a further economic loss to the air- line industry. The people will retaliate, as they have a right to do, by curtailing the use of the current jet ports in our country. They will start closing the jet ports down during the night-not just National Airport in Washington, but all major jet ports in America will start to close down. People are going to get-and rightly so a restriction on the use of the current jet airports which service our major population centers.
At that point the airline industry is going to realize that what it thought was economy by saving this money on the retrofitting of planes and making them quiet, bearable and livable, will be a severe blow to them and civil aviation in our country. I see that coming. I pre- dict it is going to come as surely as we are meeting here today. It has already started. It will not be stopped unless the airline industry makes hard economic decisions to give the people on the ground who suffer from this problem the relief to which they are entitled.
Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the necessary number of words.
(Mr. GROSS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his re- marks.)
Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I rise to inquire about a couple of items in this bill. On page 50, line 10, it is stated:
Paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4) of sub- section (a) shall not apply with respect to any product which is manufactured solely for use outside any State.
make the export. For example, in our au- tomobile situation we find that if they do not have the proper fuel what we put on an automobile would be wasted. There can be many other instances like that. Mr. GROSS. On page 51, line 3, it is stated:
A person who does any act in violation of paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of section 10(a), and who establishes that he did not have reason to know in the exercise of due care that such act was in violation of such para- graph, shall not be subject to a civil penalty under subparagraph (A).
What kind of a loophole is being pro- vided here, and for what reason? This is obviously some kind of a loophole.
Mr. STAGGERS. If the gentleman will yield further, I would say that if a person does not know his article violates the regulations we do not think he ought to be punished if he does not know.
Mr. GROSS. I want to turn once more to page 53, and section 12, "Citizen Suits.' I am sorry that more of the Members were not here earlier this af- ternoon to hear the colloquy between the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. WAG- GONNER) and the gentleman from Flor- ida (Mr. ROGERS) on this section. I am still far from convinced that this provi- sion in the bill is not a wide-open invi- tation to nuisance suits that will be brought against those who may be the least able financially to defend them- selves.
Mr. STAGGERS. I might say to the gentleman from Iowa that this is the
time when the Nation is confronted with a financial crisis. I am willing to endure some noise until I can be assured that the Government and the people of this country can be saved from moral and fi- nancial bankruptcy. I will vote against the bill.
Mr. COLLIER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words. Mr. Chairman and Members of the House, I presently and for many years have represented the district which en- compasses the busiest airport in the world, O'Hare International. It has op- erations every 37 seconds. I think I would be remiss if I did not at this time make as a matter of record my comment with regard to the pending amendment of my good friend from Illinois.
This problem of establishing curfews and going to the FAA seeking regula- tions which provide for relief from the noise problem in the area is nothing new. I served on the Aviation Subcommittee 15 years ago when we were dealing with this very problem. But I think we ought to get one thing straight: We have a curfew at Washington National Airport because Washington National Airport and Dulles are in a totally unique posi- tion. They are not municipally operated but instead under control of the Fed- eral Government. O'Hare International Airport is operated by the Chicago Mu- nicipal Airport Authority. There would be not one plane going in or out of O'Hare field after 11 o'clock at night if the local airport authority did not ap- [p. H1535]
prove it. So it is well and good to sug- gest bringing the complaints to Wash- ington and have the FAA do the job when in reality the responsibility pres- ently exists with the local airport au- thority.
So let us not beat around the bush here. If we want this job done, I sug- gest that if you have an interest in pro- viding this relief, you should go to the Chicago Airport Authority, which is an arm of the city administration of Chi- cago, get relief at the source. They have the power to stop any flights after 11 o'clock if, in fact, we want a curfew. I think that ought to be made eminently clear, and I hope have done so today.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offeréd by the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. MIKVA).
The amendment was rejected.
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. RYAN
Mr. RYAN. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. RYAN: Page 56, line 23, insert "(a)" immediately after "SEC. 14."; and insert after line 3 on page 58 the following:
"(b) The Administrator may make grants to States and other public entities to develop, establish and conduct programs of noise con- trol, prevention, and abatement, and to es- tablish and conduct demonstration projects to develop and evaluate new techniques, ap- proaches, and methods in the control, pre- vention, and abatement of noise. The Ad- ministrator shall by regulation prescribe the form, content, and manner of submission of applications for grants under this subsection. Payment of grants under this subsection may
enable local governments to conduct meaningful noise control programs. What must be added is a comprehensive system of grants which will allow State and public bodies to develop, establish and carry out noise control programs and projects.
Noise control takes money, and there is no getting around the fact that local communities are particularly hard- pressed for funds. Given the significant role that they must play in combating this most serious hazard, I believe that it is imperative that the Federal Govern- ment do whatever it can to alleviate the financial burden of States and local gov- ernments in dealing with noise pollution.
Perhaps the best illustration of the role Federal financial assistance can play in noise abatement is the example of the crucial role Federal funding has played in the development of New York City's air pollution control program.
Federal funding for State and local air pollution programs is provided under the program grant section of the Clean Air Act in four stages: (1) development grants, usually made for a 2-year period, but may be continued into a third; (2) establishment grants, made for a 3-year period, the first of which may overlap the development grant; (3) improvement grants, also made for 3 years, the first of which is again an extension of the estab- lishment grant; and (4) maintenance grants, to be made annually once the program is fully established.
Before the availability of Federal fi- nancial assistance in 1966, the New York City department of air resources had an
technical positions. In 1968, when the New York City Department of Air Re- sources initiated a 10-station automatic air monitoring system to complement preexisting manual stations and permit a continuous definition of the air pollution problem in New York City, it was Federal funding which made possible much of the required technical work in design and installation. Since then, it has been in large part the Federal contribution which permits the maintenance and servicing of New York City's aerometric system, including the compilation of data for the daily air quality report.
Not only would such financial assist- ance enable States and localities to un- dertake programs which otherwise may remain unimplemented, but a grant pro- gram would serve also as incentive for greater local initiative in the area of noise control.
There are those who, although they favor the concept of grants, would sug- gest that we wait a few years before en- deavoring such an undertaking. Although I can understand their concern, noise and its dangers are growing at such an alarming rate that we simply cannot afford the luxury of a wait-and-see ap- proach. Urban noise has doubled since 1955 and is expected to double again by 1980. And evidence presented at the June 1971 meeting of the International Stand- ardization Organization in Geneva, Switzerland, indicated that if this trend continues, every urban dweller will be deaf by the turn of the century.
Quite clearly, the time to act is now. The idea of grants to aid States and
be made in advance or by way of reimburse- annual budget of less than $900,000 and
ment, and in such intervals and on such con- ditions, as the Administrator finds necessary. There are authorized to be appropriated $5,- 000,000 for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1973, and $10,000,000 for the fiscal year end- ing June 30, 1974, for grants under this subsection."
(Mr. RYAN asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.)
Mr. RYAN. Mr. Chairman, this amend- ment would establish a program of grants to States and local governments in order to develop and conduct programs of noise control and abatement and to establish and carry on demonstration projects to develop and evalulate new techniques and approaches.
Throughout the course of the hearings before the Subcommittee on Public Health and Environment, one theme continued to be stressed: that States and local governments have a significant re- sponsibility in the control, abatement, and prevention of noise.
Recognizing this, the committee bill provides for technical assistance to State and local governments to facilitate their development and enforcement of am- bient noise standards, including, but not limited to advice on training of noise control personnel and on the selection and operation of noise abatement equip- ment, and in the preparation of model State or local legislation for noise con- trol.
Although advice and technical assistance is necessary, it is not sufficient to
a staff of 120. In fiscal year 1966, that department received a 3-year establish- ment grant of $500,000. This grant en- abled the department to create an emis- sion inventory unit to define the names and sources of every significant air pol- lutant in New York City. This project provided the basis for the advancement of New York City's activities into a man- agement program. Thus, in 1968, when the Department of Air Resources em- barked on its implementation of new air pollution control legislation, it was a Fed- eral maintenance grant of $860,000 per year that provided the springboard for a doubling of the total air pollution control budget from $2 to $4 million and thereby an escalation of the city's efforts to com- bat air pollution.
During the past 3 years, the Depart- ment of Air Resources has received $2.7 million in Federal maintenance assist- ance. In fiscal 1969, this maintenance support represented 25 percent of its $4.1 million budget, and in 1970 28 percent of $4.4 million. In 1971, this figure increased to about 35 percent of a total budget of $5.1 million.
According to the administrator of New York City's Environmental Protection Agency, Jerome Kretchmer, Federal funds paid the salaries of 36 percent of New York's inspection and field staff, greatly increasing its ability to serve summonses to violators of New York's air pollution code.
Federal assistance has also permitted the existence of additional high level
localities in combating noise pollution is not new. In the 91st Congress, I intro- duced legislation to establish such a pro- gram. Much of the reason that affirma- tive action was not taken on this legisla- tion was that the Congress was in the process of mandating an Office of Noise Abatement and Control within the En- vironmental Protection Agency with the task of preparing a comprehensive study on noise. It was felt that we should wait until the report was completed before embarking on a major grant program.
That report is now complete. It was submitted to the Congress on December 31, 1971. And it underscores why such a grant program is essential. In the sec- tion entitled "Specifics of a Program for the Future," the report stated that: Local and State governments have the pri- mary responsibilities for the actions necessary to provide a quieter environment.
In the case of noise control, the future is now. We cannot afford to allow this problem to continue unabated. And if we are to come to grips with this prob- lem, it means that we must supply all possible assistance to those with the primary responsibility for making this a more quiet and tranquil world.
My amendment would authorize the Administrator to make grants to States and other public entities to develop, es- tablish, and conduct programs of noise control, prevention, and abatement, and to establish and conduct demonstration projects to develop and evaluate new techniques, approaches, and methods in the control, prevention, and abatement [p. H1536]
of noise. And it would authorize to be appropriated $5,000,000 for fiscal year 1973, and $10,000,000 for fiscal year 1974, for this purpose.
I urge the adoption of this amendment.
Mr. STAGGERS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
(Mr. STAGGERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his re- marks.)
Mr. STAGGERS. Mr. Chairman, I shall not take the full 5 minutes. I shall take but a moment because in my opin- ion the amendment is premature.
We are proposing to start a program of investigating and making research and then setting standards for the Nation and for the manufacturing. of products.
Certainly, we do not want to put into this bill anything to tell the States that they can start saying that they are going into noise abatement control and other things.
What we are doing is simply making a start at the manufacturing end, that the in transportation, and so forth, will meet new products which they manufacture the standards established under the pro- visions of this bill.
We hope we can keep it in that simple fashion at the present time. Certainly, after a year or two, if this needs to be carried further, we can do it then.
So, Mr. Chairman, I hope the amend- ment will be defeated.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New York (Mr. RYAN).
The amendment was rejected.
Mr. COLLIER. Mr. Chairman, as is probably obvious from my previous re- marks, I have had to wrestle with the problem of air jet noise as it affects the average citizen perhaps more over the years than any other Member of this body. I realize, however, that many of my colleagues with districts adjacent to busy commercial airports can appreciate the deep concern and the aggravation of their residents in this regard.
I am not seeking to make any major changes, and in fact I laud the commit- tee for what I think is a sound and sensible approach to this problem, but I do think that my amendment would accomplish one thing: I think that, if nothing else, the residents in an area adjacent to an airport should be ap- prised of any construction that is likely to increase the impact of noise upon their everyday lives.
What my amendment does is to say that where any commercial airport in- stallation engages in an expansion, an extension of runways, or anything that would basically change the impact of
the noise on the people in the area, they
should at least be entitled to advance notice that this construction is going to be taking place, through a public hear
we take up the airport construction bill again. This is an airport construction matter. So far as I know, in my part of the country, everybody is advised when a new airport is to start. I can recall one instance in which they notified all the people and the courthouse was filled. There was so much opposition at that time to an airport being constructed at a certain place that the FAA gave it up and said that they would not construct it there and that they would have to select a better place.
Well, when they came up with another place, another hearing was held in the courthouse and everybody had their say. There were a few who were opposed to it there, but the majority were for it.
Now I would say to the gentleman from Illinois that this committee when we have any other airport bill, certainly I would be very willing to put the gen- tleman's amendment on such a bill.
I do not think it should be put on this bill. I would be willing to say to him that this committee would give to the FAA now notice that this should be done until such time as we could put it in the proper bill and in the proper perspective. Mr. COLLIER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. STAGGERS. I yield to the gentle
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. COLLIER
Mr. COLLIER. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. COLLIER: Page 47, insert after line 12 the following:
"(c) (1) For the purpose of assuring that the public has adequate notice of and opportunity to present its views respecting construction or extension of a runway for the construction of a public airport or the
such an airport, which has the effect of in- creasing noise levels in any community- "(A) paragraph (1) of section 16 (d) of the Airport and Airway Development Act of 1970 is amended by inserting (A)' after 'certifies to the Secretary' and by inserting before the period at the end of such para- graph the following: ; and (B) that the public agency sponsoring such project pub-
ing where they would at least have their related to what this amendment is diday in court.
This becomes essential because we have on two different occasions expe- rienced situations in my area where con- struction was commenced with knowledge on the part of the local offi- cials, no knowledge on the part of the people living in the area. They subse- quently engaged in litigation seeking to get an injunction, but they failed.
So this merely says that where an air- port installation does expand, where they make changes, then have them give ad- vance notice, 30 days before they com- mence work, and to notify the local officials so the people can at least come in, find out what is going to happen to lished notice of each such public hearing them, and have their say in public hear-
not more than thirty days and not less than fifteen days before such hearing in a news- paper of general circulation in each commu- nity affected by such project, and further that the public agency sponsoring such proj- ect notify by registered mail the mayor or president of the towns, cities or villages con- tiguous to such airport of any proposed con- struction not less than sixty days before be- beginning any such construction as provided by regulations of the Secretary'; and
"(B) section 308 of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:
ings. That is all it does.
I hope that this body would see my amendment as a sensible amendment, and one that they could support. Thank you.
Mr. STAGGERS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I will say to the gen- tleman from Illinois, I respect his pro- posal very much. I enjoyed serving on the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce with him for a longer period of time. The gentleman was a very valuable and hardworking member of the committee. I know he does know the problems of these airports. He does an outstanding job for his constituents whom he is trying to protect.
But I would say, Mr. Chairman, that this is a noise control bill. I believe the proper place for this amendment is when
rected to, and that is to the expansion of an existing facility.
Secondly, if the distinguished chair- man for whom I have great respect, would notify me at the time the airport act is up for amendment, I would cer- tainly yield to his wisdom by withdraw- ing this amendment and offering it at that time, because I do think public hear- ings under the circumstances generally prevail where there is an expansion of airport activity. That is the right of the people who live in that area.
Mr. STAGGERS. I can assure the gen- tleman that when the bill comes up that he would be notified and I will certainly be in favor of his amendment to that bill.
Mr. COLLIER. I thank the gentleman and will ask to withdraw my amendment. Mr. Chairman, I respectfully ask unanimous consent to withdraw my amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Il-
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