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PETITION

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

We, the undersigned citizens of Washington, D. C., recognize the need for public education at the broadest and highest levels. Therefore, we petition all responsible authorities as follows:

1. The establishment of a Washington City University.

2.

The allocation of all or some part of the acreage on which the
National Training School For Boys is located for the purpose
of developing a public University in and for the District of
Columbia.

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This Petition is sponsored by the Joint Committee on the use of

The Site of the National Training School For Boys.

PETITION

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

We, the undersigned citizens of Washington, D. C., recognize the need for public education at the broadest and highest levels. Therefore, we petition all responsible authorities as follows:

1. The establishment of a Washington City University.

2.

The allocation of all or some part of the acreage on which the
National Training School For Boys is located for the purpose
of developing a public University in and for the District of
Columbia.

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This Petition is sponsored by the Joint Committee on the use of
The Site of the National Training School For Boys.

PETITION

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

We, the undersigned citizens of Washington, D. C., recognize the need for public education at the broadest and highest levels. Therefore, we petition all responsible authorities as follows:

1. The establishment of a Washington City University.

2.

The allocation of all or some part of the acreage on which the
National Training School For Boys is located for the purpose
of developing a public University in and for the District of
Columbia.

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For John W. Martin 2224 Quincy St. Hele

This Petition is sponsored by the Joint Committee on the use of

The Site of the National Training School For Bova.....

Senator MORSE. I am not familiar with the total acreage of the Training School. What is the total acreage in that area?

Mr. KENNEDY. Approximately 313 acres. Others say 360-odd acres, depending on which figure you accept.

Senator MORSE. You state that there is an area available for future expansion if it becomes necessary to expand. Is that open territory or would that require the acquisition of homes?

Mr. KENNEDY. No, sir. Not a single home. This is the advantage of this acreage as opposed to any other suggestion for site in the city. It does not require the taking of a single home, sir.

Senator MORSE. I understood you to speak about a rapid transit terminal. Does it encompass this area?

Mr. KENNEDY. Yes; there are plans for a rapid transit stop at the site we are referring to. In addition, may I add, Mr. Chairman, that along the railroad lines leading out in that direction, there are available routes for adequate transportation.

Senator MORSE. You heard the testimony this morning, that expresses the point of view that the community college should be separated from the 4-year college. Some of the testimony has indicated that maybe there should be even more decentralization than that. You speak about this as the center for a District of Columbia university. Do you include in that the community college and vocational training program or just the university site?

Mr. KENNEDY. I include, any aspect of higher education that might come under a university system. This does not mean, sir, that higher educational facilities should not also be located in other parts of the city but this would be the base for the university.

Senator MORSE. Of course as you know the two bills do contemplate a 4-year college. Once you have the 4-year college established, you have the format of the university. I do not think there is any question about the fact that you establish the 4-year college. As needs develop, it will result in expansion of it. What I think you are referring to is the university.

Mr. KENNEDY. Thank you sir, and I believe that as difficult as it is to get legislation on higher education for the District that the concept of the university ought to be included in this legislation.

Senator MORSE. The concept of the university is included in these two bills. When we are talking about establishing a 4-year program, and a program that leads to a master's degree, it will only be a matter of time before it will lead to a doctor's degree and I am glad that you mentioned it.

Thank you very much, Mr. Kennedy, you have been very helpful.

The last witness is an old friend of the committee, Mr. Donald B. Goodloe, legislative representative of Local 6 of the American Federation of Teachers, the teachers' union of Washington, D.C.

We are glad to have you.

STATEMENT OF DON. B. GOODLOE, LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVE, LOCAL 6 OF THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, THE TEACHERS' UNION OF WASHINGTON, D.C.

Mr. GOODLOE. Senator, it is always a pleasure to present our views to this committee. I have a statement, all of which I will not read, but I will summarize it and highlight some particular items which have come to our attention.

I think it has been well established that there is a need for institutions of university grade. The principle has been this: the denial of educational opportunities in conflict with American democratic ideals and that is what it means. If it is impossible, because of expense, for one to get higher education of which he is capable, he is denied an inalienable right, something that has become necessary.

We moreover think it is injurious to the prestige of the United States that the Capital of the Nation is so far behind. In other countries they look to the capital city to get an example. I pass over the Sorbonne. We know even Berlin and in England, at least one of the great universities of the country is in its capital city. I think all that has been made clear.

However, there are some things in the bills to which we wish to call attention. On page 5 of S. 293 it is provided that the laboratory schools should be kept under the present Board of Education. We feel that the institution which trains the teachers should be.

We approve, let me make it clear, of putting the teachers college under the Board of Education, higher education. But we think the liaison should be kept within the laboratory school and the teachers college.

At the bottom of page 6 of S. 293 there is something to which attention has been called by a preceding witness. We would like to be sure that in the powers delegated to the Board of Higher Education there is effectively no repeal of any existing statute protecting the rights and tenure of teachers.

We would like to be reassured of that.

To be specific we hope this does not in effect repeal the tenure provision contained on page 4 of the Salary Act of 1955.

Senator MORSE. Mr. Goodloe, I am going to ask counsel to prepare for the committee a memorandum on the points that you raise and a copy will be sent to you for any further comment.

Mr. GOODLOE. I certainly appreciate that, Senator.

Senator MORSE. Let us go back to this page 5. What was the point you made on page 5?

Mr. GOODLOE. On page 5:

Notwithstanding any other provision of this act, the laboratory schools of the District of Columbia shall remain under the control and management of, and the employees assigned to such schools shall remain subject to the supervision of the Board of Education.

We interpret that to mean they will stay with the secondary and elementary schools under the jurisdiction of the present Board of Education. We think inasmuch as they are a part of the teachers college it would be preferable for them to remain under the direction and supervision of the Board of Education.

Senator MORSE. That is a detail on which the chairman is not qualified to comment now. I am going to ask counsel to prepare a memorandum on that and submit it to the chairman.

Mr. GOODLOE. We are appreciative of the fact. In S. 1612, on page 5, there is something else to which we should call attention, subsection (c) and the last sentence:

The Board, upon the recommendation of the presidents of the colleges, shall establish, with the approval of the Commissioners and without regard to the provisions of any other law, retirement and leave systems for such employees which shall be comparable to such systems in like institutions of higher education.

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