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Mr. STAGGERS. Thank you for your appearance, Mr. Harvey.
Mr. HARVEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STAGGERS. The next witness is our colleague from Kentucky, the Honorable Frank A. Stubblefield.

STATEMENT OF HON. FRANK A. STUBBLEFIELD, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF KENTUCKY

Mr. STUBBLEFIELD. Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I do not want any doubt in anyone's mind about where I stand on the quality stabilization bill. I am for it. I want to vote for it on the floor of the House this year. Help give me that opportunity.

I've long been committed to the principles of this bill. It restores sanity to the marketplace. It will help keep merchants in business. It will help the small towns and the communities of my district.

I think it high time that we stop discriminating against the small

man.

I believe we should have some of this "equal protection of the laws" for the small businessman.

If you have adequate capital, you can already do everything lawfully that the quality stabilization bill will permit when it is enacted. Go into one of the giant chainstores in Washington, D.C. You'll find one product after another that has the store's own label on it. Then go across the country to that chain's other stores. The prices are identical for those products.

Gentlemen, they control the price because it's their own trademark in their own stores.

But the manufacture of the famous name product who wants mass distribution through the Nation's independent merchants can't protect his retail outlets by insuring them an adequate profit. If he tries to do it, if he tries to stop the use of his product as "loss leaders," if he tries to stop the predatory merchants from getting the product, he gets hit by the Department of Justice or the Federal Trade Commission. He's committed an act of unfair competition.

And there are several other ways that lawfully the manufacturer or retailer can do what the quality stabilization bill will permit. For example, the well-financed manufacturer can consign his products through retail outlets. Or he can set up exclusive franchises. Or he can sell door to door.

This Quality Stabilization Act can't be used unless there is free and open competition. There's no price fixing under it. Every manufacturer using it has to face the tough realities of the marketplace. He'll survive or fail depending on how much he gives for how little. He's not shielded against anything.

Neither is the small merchant. He'll have to take his chances too. Many will fail despite the enactment of this bill. That's deplorable, but Congress cannot in good conscience subsidize anyone.

This Nation is great because it fights hard. But you need in every battle fair ground rules of competition. The quality stabilization bill will provide those ground rules.

Mr. STAGGERS. Are there any questions? If not, we thank you, Mr. Stubblefield.

Mr. STUBBLEFIELD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STAGGERS. The next witness is our colleague from Montana, the Honorable James F. Battin. Mr. Battin, you may proceed.

STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES F. BATTIN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MONTANA

Mr. BATTIN. Mr. Chairman, I am for the quality stabilization bill. I have joined about 25 of my colleagues in the House in introducing this much-needed measure.

Enactment of the quality stabilization bill will serve the consumer. He may select, under this act, products of top value, which is the quality of the product as related to its price. Or he may select those products made strictly to sell "at a price." This act can't be used unless there is free and open competition. That guarantee under our free competitive enterprise system will benefit, as always, the consumer. It gives the people of our Nation the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation or any people at any time.

Enactment of the quality stabilization bill will help the American wage earner. It will help stabilize employment and give the wage earner more in the marketplace for the dollars he earns. It will help the wage earner because it, too, will help the employer, and the health and prosperity of the wage earner and the employer are interdependent.

Enactment of the quality stabilization bill will help the small businessman. The small merchant with limited dollars will be able to compete with the giant. The predatory merchant and the bait advertiser will be checked by this bill.

Enactment of the quality stabilization bill will help the manufac turer safeguard his property rights in his brand name. This bill, in providing the incentives of our free enterprise system, will promote the making of the best possible products because under the Quality Stabilization Act the reputation earner thereby can be protected. I urge your quick and favorable consideration of the Quality stabilization bill. It will serve the Nation well.

Mr. STAGGERS. Mr. Battin, we are glad to have your testimony on this legislation.

Mr. BATTIN. Thank you for the opportunity, Mr. Chairman. Mr. STAGGERS. The next witness is our collague from Indiana, the Honorable Richard L. Roudebush. Mr. Roudebush, you man proceed. STATEMENT OF HON. RICHARD L. ROUDEBUSH, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF INDIANA

Mr. ROUDEBUSH. I am glad to be one of the many sponsors of the quality stabilization bill. I support it because I see what is happening to the small stores, and the good people that run them, back in the Sixth District of Indiana.

I don't believe there is anyone that knows how long the small independent merchants will be able to survive in what are appropriately called the Hometowns of America. Because they're dying awfully fast. These small merchants, these honest people, are confronted by giants.

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Mass merchandiser, they call these giants. Turnover is their gospel, but service to the community is rarely in their handbook of operations. The loss leader is their formula; but service on the faulty product is usually someone else's responsibility. Huge capital is only one more of their weapons of assault; but credit to the consumer who is in hard luck is not permitted.

Perhaps the Quality Stabilization Act will not save even one independent merchant. Even so it still should be enacted. Because we owe it to these fine people who have helped build this country and given the leadership that built its communities to at least be given, in turn, a fighting chance of survival. I sincerely believe it will help the small businessman survive because most of them are efficient merchants.

This quality stabilization bill contains not one penny of subsidy to the small man. It gives him only a chance to compete on a fair basis by eliminating unfair competition.

The discount move toward monopoly has mushroomed to mammoth proportions. Discount store enthusiasts say they will take over, lock stock and barrel, before 1970, 80 percent of the retail business of the country.

E. B. Weiss, vice president of Doyle, Dane, Bernback, Inc., in his study entitled "Marketing's Stake in the Low-Margin Retail Revolution," predicted that by 1966 about 50 giant retail organizations will control 50 percent of the Nation's total retail volume in practically all major merchandise classifications.

Mike Goldgar, chairman of United Star Cos., Atlanta, Ga., predicted in an article appearing in Home Furnishings Daily of February 13, 1962, that

the discount field in 1972 will consist of 500 stores, averaging 200,000 square feet. They will operate on a flat gross margin of about 25 percent. Groceries, run as a subsidy department, will account for 30 percent of total volume, while approximately 45 percent of all soft goods, including fashion merchandise, will be produced abroad.

One huge discount chain, Jubilee Cities, lays it right on the line as to its practices. Its president, Lawrence Altman, was interviewed in the December 1961 issue of the Discount Merchandiser, and here is what Mr. Altman says:

Question. What about traffic appliances? Are you interested in carrying these?

Answer. Yes. As a matter of fact, we plan to own and operate our own traffic appliance departments. It will be simply a loss-leader operation. We are going to take a percentage of the store items that will identify value and use them as giveaways to build an image. When we get to soft goods, we give them a quality image at low prices. If you see our advertising you will understand that we sketch our own fashion ads. We think that will build up our fashion image throughout the store. Our concern is to make a profit through volume.

Thus Mr. Altman confirms the use of two ingredients in their merchandising formula. The first is the low price, oftentimes a lossleader baiting price, used in part to give the impression that all the store's prices for all its multitude of products are likewise bargains. The second ingredient is the use of a reputable brand name as the bait.

The pricing policies of the discount houses do present deceptive attractiveness to the public. But the long-range result is almost certain to be a reduction in competition-and greater monopolistic concentration in distribution. This clearly is not in the public interest. Mr. STAGGERS. The committee appreciates your appearance, Mr. Roudebush.

Mr. ROUDEBUSH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STAGGERS. The next witness is our colleague from the State of Washington, the Honorable Walt Horan.

STATEMENT OF HON. WALT HORAN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

Mr. HORAN. I want to thank the members of the committee for affording me the opportunity to appear before you on behalf of the legislation you are considering. In these days of "controlled deficits" and managed unbalanced budgets, we are all necessarily concerned with the fiscal situation of our Nation. It is not a good situation. The legislation before you should aid greatly in strengthening one of the major segments of our country's domestic economy, the small businessman. I have sponsored legislation in the past which is designed to allow a tax break for the small businessman. We in the Congress frequently consider legislation designed to strengthen the economy of the small business community. I feel that the legislation before you today, if passed, will provide a real boost to our Nation's small business economy.

Our trademark system provides incentive to manufacture and distribute products of greatest value and dependability. Under present laws, no adequate provision is made for the protection of goodwill in the manufacturer's trademark. This legislation will benefit the manufacturer, small business retail outlets, and the consuming public.

The manufacturer has a heavy investment in plant, equipment, inventories, and national advertising. He must keep his workers employed and his factory busy.

Trademarked products allow him to protect his investments. But, when a popular trademarked product is used as bait to attract customers, retailers are forced to abandon the product as unprofitable. The loss of public confidence in the trademarked product through sale by nonservice-type retailers, coupled with the loss of support for the product on the part of retail sellers, greatly affects the manufacturer. This legislation will enable the manufacturer to protect his property rights in a trademark.

This bill will also allow small businessmen to compete on a more equitable basis with nationwide, large firms.

Mr. STAGGERS. Thank you for your apperance and testimony, Mr. Horan.

Mr. HORAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STAGGERS. The next witness is another colleague from the State of Washington, the Honorable Catherine May. Mrs. May we are glad to welcome you to the committee.

STATEMENT OF HON. CATHERINE MAY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

Mrs. MAY. Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I appreciate the opportunity to submit a statement in support of the quality stabilization bill of which I am a cosponsor having introduced H.R. 3745 during the current session of Congress. The provisions of H.R. 3745 are identical to H.R. 3669, the quality stabilization bill introduced by the distinguished chairman of this committee, Mr. Harris. Perhaps the most significant reason that I am an ardent supporter of the quality stabilization bill is that I am a housewife who demands quality in the products I buy. There is nothing that disturbs me more when I go to the market than to find that I have been tricked into believing I am purchasing a quality product when, in fact, the product is inferior.

It has been my sad experience as a housewife to find a great deal of evidence of dishonest and price-cutting practices that are destroying the goodwill symbolized by brand names and trademarks, and I am seriously concerned to find that parasitic practices are on the increase. Too often we find the emphasis in marketing is shifting to the "price" and the "gimmick" and it is the consumer who is cheated because it is the quality of the product that suffers. Misuse of brand name associations and trademarked products should be of serious concern to the Congress. Resellers who have helped the manufacturers to establish honored brand names and trademarks are today finding that they must shift their emphasis to cope with price and gimmick selling in order to stay in business.

It is not only the consumer who suffers but it is also the resellers who actually would prefer to engage in demand-creating activities that emphasize quality and service at a fair price.

My alarm is also for the manufacturers who desire to produce quality trademarked products and prefer to have them sold and serviced on a quality basis at a fair price.

I feel that the quality stabilization bill provides the remedy and that Congress has the responsibility to act to protect our brand name system of distribution. My mail indicates that my constituents agree. Businessmen in nearly every category have informed me of their support for the quality stabilization bill. They tell me the need is desperate. But these same retailers have a long-range interest in serving the needs of the homemaker.

I am but one of the homemakers of America but I feel that other homemakers like myself want to know more about where they stand when they go to the market. We want assurances that we get the same top quality and price as any other consumer. Our chances are far better when the manufacturer is permitted to stabilize his prices.

As a person formally involved in the field of advertising I know that a very high percentage of demand for commodities is tied to brand names and trademarks. A very important part of the small business commodity is geared to the advertising, promotion, and distribution of brand name and trademarked products. The ability of businessmen to identify themselves with various brand names, with honored trademarks, has helped to establish their business. invest their

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