Dr. MILEY. It is a member of the Private Hospital Association and the American Hospital Association.

Senator PEPPER. It is a member of the American Hospital Association?

Dr. MILEY. Yes, sir.

Senator PEPPER. In good standing?

Dr. MILEY. Yes, sir. Well, we think so!

Senator PEPPER. I just wanted the record to show whether it was a properly accredited hospital.

Dr. MILEY. Yes.

Mr. MARKEL. Dr. Miley will file for the record a statement.

Senator PEPPER. Did you know about the case of Miss Hirsch, who was here, before?

Dr. MILEY. Yes. We had a neurological consultation on Miss Hirsch, since I saw her, because I felt I was not a capable enough neurologist to make any decision whatever on Miss Hirsch's condition, and we had Dr. Hubert Howe, of the Neurological Institute, see her, and we had her, the last few months, and I have a statement here by Dr. Howe in relation to several patients that he has seen at Dr. Gerson's.

Senator PEPPER. Are you a medical doctor?

Dr. MILEY. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. From what school did you graudate?

Dr. MILEY. Northwestern University Medical School.

Senator PEPPER. Are you a member of the American Medical Association?

Dr. MILEY. Yes; a fellow of the American Medical Association, the National Gastroenterological Association, the American Rheumatism Association, the Philadelphia Physiological Association, the New York and Philadelphia County Medical Societies, and the New York and Pennsylvania State Medical Associations.

Senator PEPPER. And is it your opinion as a doctor that the cure, or the apparent cure, or improvement in the condition of Miss Hirsch which you witnessed, is due to the treatment that Dr. Gerson gave her?

Dr. MILEY. Well, I cannot see anything else to account for it. It is the only change in routine which she has had at all. If it were an isolated case you would say, "Well, maybe she was going to get better, anyway!" But if she had died, as apparently everybody who saw her thought she was going to die, everyone would have said, "Well, you see what happened!" But taking it along with quite a few other cases-and it is getting to be too much—it is no longer a coincidence. There are a good many people walking around that should be dead.

Senator PEPPER. Let us take the next case, here.

What is your name?

Mr. GIMSON. George Gimson.

Senator PEPPER. Where do you live?

Mr. GIMSON. 729 Thirty-second street, Union City, N. J.
Senator PEPPER. Dr. Gerson, tell us about Mr. Gimson.

(Dr. Gerson presented for the record the following letter:)

Dr. MAX GERSON,

New York, N. Y.

VETERANS' ADMINISTRATION, Lyons, N. J., November 26, 1946.

DEAR DOCTOR: In compliance with a request from the above-named veteran we are submitting the following information.

First symptoms of present illness were present about May 1944. First symptoms in the Army since induction. First Army hospitalization was Regional Hospital, Fort Riley, Kan., August 28, 1944, treament above.

Examination is not remarkable except for a freshly healed scar, anterior triangle, about 6 centimeters in length. Above and anterior to the scar is an area of anesthesia going well up into the scalp, including the entire tinna of the ear, following the nerve distribution of the greater auricular and of smaller occipital nerve. This scar is so recent it cannot be decided whether there is tumor tissue remaining in the scar or whether it is simple fibroblastic tissue as a result of the operation. But there is thickening along the entire length of the incision. There is no evidence of any other cervical adenopathy nor are there any occipital glands that could be palpated. There is nothing in the supraclavicular region either. No evidence of recurrence was noted on physical examination. It was a little bit difficult to determine whether the induration was due to postoperative reaction or some remaining tumor. However, review of the entire block of tissue removed, shows that histologically the malignant areas have been removed completely. Orthopedic examination reveals patient evidences extreme pain on all body motions even remotely related to the back. All back motion is limited by pain. Straight leg raising produces lumbar pain, Obers sign is positive, prone thrust produces pain referred to the lumbo-sacral region. All reflexes are normal. X-ray taken October 10, 1944, shows cervical spine in normal alinement and shows no bony abnormality. except a spina bifida occulta of the seventh cervical segment.

Treatment here consisted of extensive pyhsiotherapy to back, dressings to the neck, and heat treatment to right ear.

Condition on completion of case: 1. Unimproved. 2. Cured. Disposition recommended: Since this patient's hospitalization he has complained of low back pain. He has been given an extensive course of physiotherapy with no signs of improvement. In view of these findings, a CDD discharge is recommended.

Maximum hospital benefits have been attained. No. 1 diagnosis is considered to be permanent. No. 2. Not permanent.

Diagnosis: 1. Strain, ligamentous, lumbosacral, moderately severe, secondary to injury incurred in fall, April 1943, Federal Shipbuilding & Drydock Co., Kearny, N. J.

2. Carcinoma, basal cell, skin back of right neck, of hair-follicle origin and precursor of rodent ulcer.

It is understood that this information is strictly confidential and not to be released to any other party.

Very truly yours,

R. C. FAGLEY,
Major, Medical Corps, Chief Medical Officer.

Dr. GERSON. Mr. Gimson came with a big tumor that was arrested.
He was operated first when he was a soldier and was in camp.
Mr. GIMSON. Fort Riley, Kans.

Dr. GERSON. And then they operated, but they could not remove the basal cell carcinoma, because it was grown up into the skull, so they sent him for deep X-ray therapy to another hospital.

Mr. GIMSON. Fitzsimmons, Denver, Colo.

Dr. GERSON. He was sent to Fitzsimmons Hospital, at Denver, Colo., for deep X-ray therapy, but there they decided that deep X-ray therapy is very dangerous to the brain, and the specialists there refused. Mr. GIMSON. They did not give me any treatment at all, so they discharged me.

Dr. GERSON. They discharged him and sent him out and told him, "Sorry, we can't do anything!" Then it grew further, and

the whole face was swollen, here [indicating]. His left eye was entirely closed, here; he could see very little with the right one.

Mr. GIMSON. This one is still swollen. You can see the crack. Dr. GERSON. And I sent the case also to Professor Howe, the neurologist, and he saw, it was growing into the brain, and there [indicating], and all these disturbances; and I have some X-rays and all other things, there, but I do not know whether to put them on the table; and there is another [indicating].

Senator PEPPER. Go ahead. He came to you?

Dr. GERSON. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. He came to you, and you treated him?
Dr. GERSON. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. And you applied your diet?

Dr. GERSON. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. And did you give him any liver injections?

Dr. GERSON. Yes, daily; at home. I think his wife gave them to him.

Mr. GIMSON. Yes; that is right.

Senator PEPPER. And what is this, that you have here?

Dr. GERSON. That is from the Veterans' Administration, the original.

Senator PEPPER. This is a letter that purports to be from the Veterans' Administration, at Lyons, N. J., dated November 26, 1945, addressed to Dr. Gerson, and signed by R. C. Fagley, Major, MC, Chief Medical Officer. It purports to relate to George J. Gimson, C-4491792. That is the serial number, and the letter purports to be a report to Dr. Gerson about Mr. Gimson's illness.

Now, Mr. Gimson, you tell us about your case. What was your condition, and what treatment did you get from the Army? When did you go to Dr. Gerson, and what did he do? And what relief have you had?

Mr. GIMSON. I went to Fort Riley, Kans., and I had something like an ingrown hair, you might say, on my neck.

Senator PEPPER. Will you speak louder, please?

Mr. GIMSON. I went down to the hospital, and the doctor, the major, looked at me, and he told me, "Have it off-it wouldn't take long," and I could be back with the troop, and I wouldn't lose any time, I would be back in a day or two.

Senator PEPPER. How long were you off?

Mr. GIMSON. I was off 4 or 5 months. Two days I had marching-to keep us busy, out of trouble. Then I went to the hospital. Down there they told me I would be back with the troop in 2 or 3 days. I went down and had the operation, the next morning, and I wound up in bed, and I could not move my head or anythingpulled away over on the side. They came in for inspection. This captain came in one morning and told me it was about time I had my head straightened out. I told him I could not move my head, because from the operation it pulled me all over on the side, so he just straightened it up-and he opened it all up again; and when he ripped it open like that, I told him, "I can't feel anything; I can't hear anything," so he looked at me, and he checked me, and he gave me an examination; then he told me, "We are going to send you," he

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says, "to Fitzsimmons, Denver, Hospital." I asked him, "Why should I go there? Why couldn't I go east?" He said, "Well, we haven't got the right equipment, here, for what your trouble is, so we are going to send you out there."

Senator PEPPER. Where were you?

Mr. GIMSON. I was in the regional hospital in Kansas; and from Kansas they shipped me out to Denver, Colo., to Fitzsimmons, and when I went to Fitzsimmons they gave me an examination and took a hypodermic needle and stuck me in the head with it to see if my feeling was there, so I did not have any feeling whatsoever, and they were going to give me this deep X-ray therapy, and they did not give me any. I put in for a Christmas furlough, and that was refused to me, so then they gave me a discharge the following week, and when I came home the tumor was coming up. Half my white shirt is all worn on one side from where this tumor swelled up behind my ear, here, where the scar was. It had started to come up again, so I went to the Red Cross about it, and I told them I could not sleep at nights, and I had pains; I could not even do a day's work. I would have to quit as soon as I put any pressure on my self; so she sent me down to Lyons, N. J.; so I went down there, and they told me they had lost all my papers and records. I guess they did not want to tell me what was wrong; so they told me the only thing they could do for me was to send me to the Bronx, N. Y., and get a specimen; so I asked them, "You mean a specimen by operation?" He says, "Yes." I says, "There is no more operating on me," and I refused all operation; so I came home, and my wife told me I was going over to see Dr. Gerson.

Dr. GERSON. Why did you refuse an operation?

Mr. GIMSON. Well, they did not do me any good the first time, and my condition was worse; so I went over to Dr. Gerson, and he gave me this book, and that is what I am to do. There is no tumor. I can hear a lot in it.

Senator PEPPER. Now, tell us this: Did you stay in the Gotham Hospital for any length of time?

Mr. GIMSON. No.

Dr. GERSON. That was before, before the Gotham Hospital was established.

Senator PEPPER. He gave you this book, to tell you what to eat and what not to eat?

Mr. GIMSON. Yes; what to eat and what to drink, and everything. Senator PEPPER. And you went by this diet?

Mr. GIMSON. Whatever is in that book, that is what I took.

Senator PEPPER. And you followed strictly this diet?

Mr. GIMSON. 100 percent. I gave away my last pack of cigarettes just before I went up to his office, and from that day to this I never smoked a cigarette.

Senator PEPPER. You quit smoking?

Mr. GIMSON. I quit smoking and drinking, too. Last night I was' best man at my brother's wedding, and I couldn't even drink.

Senator PEPPER. How long, now, did you take this diet before you began to notice any improvement in your condition?

Mr. GIMSON. Well, I would say about, oh, a month, 2 months, a month and a half to 6 weeks.

Senator PEPPER. You took no medicine, or had no other treatment? Mr. GIMSON. No. Liley's injection-that is, liver.

Dr. GERSON. Liver injections.

Mr. GIMSON. Liver injections. Everything I am supposed to take and eat and everything is right there [referring to the little book]. Dr. GERSON. Here is the medication book.

Senator PEPPER. You mean the liver injection?

Dr. GERSON. Yes; 2 cc. codliver extraction, Liley, No. 352.
Senator PEPPER. That is a liver extract?

Dr. GERSON. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. You inject that into the liver?

Dr. GERSON. Intramuscular-not into the liver, into the muscle. Senator PEPPER. So you are satisfied the treatment Dr. Gerson gave you has been responsible for the improvement in your condition? Mr. GIMSON. Every bit of it.

Senator PEPPER. All right. Thank you.

Mr. MARKEL. May I ask Dr. Miley to talk about this case?
Senator PEPPER. Dr. Miley.

Dr. MILEY. I saw this patient when he had already recovered to a great extent. I saw him after he had been under the treatment practically 3 or 4 months. I have been watching him, seeing him once a month, since. There is no sign of recurrence, certainly, and this particular patient has had a lapse, establishing it as a basal carcinoma, which is sometimes inimical to other treatments, but usually when it involves the bone as it did in this case it has gone pretty far. He had actual bone involvement, and apparently there are no signs of that at present.

Senator PEPPER. Was the tumor that he had what we call a real tumor?

Dr. MILEY. Yes; it was a tumor, starting with a hair follicle.
Senator PEPPER. Was it malignant?

Dr. GERSON. Yes.

Dr. MILEY. Yes.

Senator PEPPER. Was the tumor that the little lady, Miss Hirsch, had, a malignant tumor?

Dr. MILEY. It is a diffused glioma, which is somewhat different. It comes out of connective tissue and it produces most of its ill effects by actual scar tissue from the glioma surrounding the nervous tissue in the spinal cord itself.

Senator PEPPER. Thank you, Mr. Gimson. We appreciate your coming.

Mr. MARKEL. Who is your next witness?

Dr. GERSON. Mrs. Anna Hanna.

(Dr. Gerson presented as a witness before the subcommittee, at this point, Mrs. Anna V. Hanna.)

Senator PEPPER. All right, Doctor. Tell us about Mrs. Hanna's

case.

Dr. GERSON. In the University of Pennsylvania, an operation was performed on the patient. We found-I read this original, herean extensive carcinoma just above the rectosigmoid with infiltration of the mesentary of the rectosigmoid and descending colon. The growth was adherent to the vena cava and both iliac vessels, and there were suspicious nodules in the liver.