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CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 5, 1980

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Cooper, Maudine, acting vice president for Washington operations, National
Urban League, Washington, D.C.; Rev. Leon Sullivan, chairman of the
board, Opportunities Industrialization Centers of America, Philadelphia,
Pa.; Pedro Garza, executive director, SER-Jobs for Progress, Dallas, Tex.;
Ruth Kobell, legislative assistant, National Farmers Union, Washington,
D.C.; and Rabbi Menachem Lubinsky, director, government and public af-
fairs, Agudath Israel of America, New York, N.Y
Humphrey, Gregory, director of legislation, American Federation of Teachers;
Gene Bottoms, executive director, American Vocational Association; and
Dale Lestina, legislative specialist, National Education Association........

STATEMENTS

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490

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American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, prepared statement (with attachment).....

703

American Personnel and Guidance Association, Nancy M. Pinson, trustee, prepared statement (with attachments)....

809

American Vocational Association, Dr. Gene Bottoms, executive director, prepared statement......

569

Bellamy, Hon. Carol, city council president, New York, N.Y., appearing on behalf of the National League of Cities.

244

Prepared statement

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statement.....

735

724

Brown, Lawrence C. Jr., president, 70001 Limited, prepared statement
CETA Coalition, Larry L. Glantz, national employment law project, prepared

Chamber of Commerce of the United States, prepared statement...
Cooper, Maudine, acting vice president for Washington operations, National
Urban League, Washington, D.C.; Rev. Leon Sullivan, chairman of the
board, Opportunities Industrialization Centers of America, Philadelphia,
Pa.; Pedro Garza, executive director, SER-Jobs for Progress, Dallas, Tex.;
Ruth Kobell, legislative assistant, National Farmers Union, Washington,
D.C.; and Rabbi Menachem Lubinsky, director, government and public af-
fairs, Agudath Israel of America, New York, N.Y
Prepared statement

Cozart, Powell, employment service director, Michigan Employment Security
Commission, prepared statement....

David, Robert (Jack), executive director of the South Carolina Employment
Security Commission, prepared statement....

Detroit Greater Opportunities Industrialization Center/Career Intern Program (GOIC/CIP), Audrea H. Blanding, director, prepared statement...... Dumas, Hon. Woodrow W., mayor of Baton Rouge, La.; Neil Hurley, director, Lowell, Mass., CETA consortium; and Marcia Eaton, manager, employment opportunities pilot program, Washington balance of State CETA program..... Prepared statement

Eaton, Marcia Congdon, manager, Washington employment opportunities
pilot program, Washington State Employment Security Department, pre-
pared statement....

Garrahy, Hon. J. Joseph, Governor, State of Rhode Island, chairman, Nation-
al Governor's Association, prepared statement (with attachments).
Ginzberg, Eli, chairman, National Commission for Employment Policy, and
director, Conservation of Human Resources, Columbia University; Sar Levi-
tan, director, Center for Social Policy Studies, the George Washington
University; and Willard Wirtz, chairman, National Manpower Institute.
Prepared statement.

Heartwell, William L., Jr., executive vice president of the Interstate Confer-
ence of Employment Security Agencies; Robert E. David, executive director,
South Carolina Employment Security Commission; Powell Cozart, employ-
ment service director, Michigan Employment Security Commission; and
Stuart Verchereau, director, employment security division, Vermont De-
partment of Employment Security, a panel.......
Henderson, Hugh, Jr., board chairman, Opportunities Industrialization
Center of Greater Milwaukee, prepared statement...

Humphrey, Gregory, director of legislation, American Federation of Teachers;
Gene Bottoms, executive director, American Vocational Association; and
Dale Lestina, legislative specialist, National Education Association..........
Prepared statement

Hurley, Neil J., director, CETA program, Lowell, Massachusetts consortium,
prepared statement...

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Indian and Native American CETA Coalition, Elizabeth Bennett, facilitator, prepared statement (with attachments)....

741

Javits, Hon. Jacob K., a U.S. Senator from the State of New York, prepared statement.

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Jefferson, Dr. Arthur, general superintendent, Detroit Public Schools, prepared statement.....

799

Kaiser Aluminum and Chemical Corp., prepared statement.

770

Kobell, Ruth E., legislative assistant, National Farmers Union, prepared statement (with attachments)..

531

Kolberg, William H., president, National Alliance of Business, prepared statement...

468

La Cooperativa, State of California Migrant and Seasonal Farmworkers Coun-
cil, George Ortiz, chairman, prepared statement (with attachments).....
Levitan, Sar A., Center for Social Policy Studies, the George Washington
University, summary statement

Lockhart, Larry J., CETA Administrator, Union County, N.J.

Prepared statement (with attachments)..

Lubinsky, Rabbi Menachem, director, government and public affairs, Agudath
Israel of America, prepared statement.

MacIlwaine, Hon. Paula, commissioner, Montgomery County, Ohio, represent-
ing the National Association of Counties.

Prepared statement

Marshall, Hon. Ray, Secretary of Labor, accompanied by Jodie Allen, Deputy
Assistant Secretary, Policy Evaluation and Research; Charles Knapp,
Deputy Assistant Secretary, Employment Training Administration; Richard
Johnson, Acting Administrator, Office of Policy Evaluation and Research;
and Robert Schwartz, Assistant Director, National Institute of Education .....
Prepared statement

Massachusetts State Employment and Training Council, prepared statement...
McGlotten, Robert, associate director, legislative department, AFL-CIO.

Prepared statement

National Association of Civilian Conservation Corps Alumni (NACCCA),
Robert Griffiths, executive director, prepared statement

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422

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548

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288

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802

National Education Association, Dale Lestina, legislative specialist, prepared statement..

609

National League of Cities, Carol Bellamy, city council president, on behalf of, prepared statement...

260

Comments on proposed legislation (with attachment)

273

Schiff, Fran W., vice president and chief economist, Committee for Economic Development; William Kolberg, president, National Alliance of Business; and Lloyd Hand, senior vice president, TRW, Inc....

451

Prepared statement.

455

Stansbury, Hon. William, mayor, city of Louisville, Ky., accompanied by
Michael McPherson and Carol Nickerson, U.S. Conference of Mayors........
Prepared statement

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Sullivan, Rev. Leon Howard, founder/chairman, Opportunities Industrialization Centers (OIC of America), prepared statement..

510

Tryon, Rosalie L., executive director, ADVOCAP, Inc., prepared statement (with attachments)..

364

Walker, Gary C., vice president, Manpower Demonstration Research Corp., and Rosalie L. Tryon, director, ADVOCAP, a community action agency and supported worksite in Wisconsin, a panel

341

Prepared statement

345

Whitehurst, Hon. Daniel K., mayor of Fresno, Calif., accompanied by Michael
McPherson, U.S. Conference of Mayors.....

170

Prepared statement

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Williams, Hon. Charlotte, county commissioner, Genesee County, Mich., accompanied by Jon Weintraub, associate director of the National Association of Counties......

201

Prepared statement

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Wirtz, Willard, chairman, National Manpower Institute, prepared statement...
Youthwork Inc., Benjamin Lattimore, director, prepared statement.

141

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Articles, publications, etc.:

An Employment and Education Agenda for Youth in the 1980's, a policy statement by the National Council on Employment Policy..

157

Articles, publications, etc.-Continued

Employment Service Youth Initiatives for 1980, from the Interstate Conference of Employment Security Agencies, Inc., March 12, 1980............ Expanding Employment Opportunities for Disadvantaged Youth, recommendations of the National Commission for Employment Policy to be included in the Commission's Fifth Annual Report to the President and the Congress.

Final Report of the National Commission on Employment and Unemployment Statistics, comments on youth labor and force statistics. Formative evaluation of the private sector, initiative program, a, from the Ohio State University, January 1980

Information on:

Youth Employment and Demonstration Projects Act (YEDPA) pro-
grams...

Administration's Proposed Youth Training and Employment Act..........
Making the Connections: Private Industry Councils, a New Direction for
CETA-A Study of the Early Experience of Twelve Private Industry
Councils..

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Migrant Teenagers-Help Keep Them in School!, from the Idaho State
Department of Education....

636

Rationale and justification for vocational education's role in youth employment programs, from the American Vocational Association, March 13, 1980..

583

Migrant Education, the Idaho Story.

What Shall We Do for (Or To) Our Youth in the 1980's?, by Sar A.
Levitan, Center for Social Policy Studies, the George Washington Uni-
versity
Communications to:

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Nelson, Hon. Gaylord, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin, from: Bailin, Michael, vice president, Corporation for Public/Private Ventures, Philadelphia, Pa., March 10, 1980...

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Church, Hon. Frank, a U.S. Senator from the State of Idaho, March
24, 1980 (with attachment)...

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Weintraub, Jon, associate director, National Association of Counties,
Washington, D.C., March 13, 1980 (with attachments)....
Williams, Hon. Harrison A. Jr., chairman, Committee on Labor and
Human Resources, from Hon. Ray Marshall, Secretary, Department of
Labor, June 10, 1980 (with attachments)..

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Questions and answers:

Marshall, Hon. Ray, Secretary of Labor responses to questions asked by
Senator Nelson......

84

Marshall, Hon. Ray, Secretary of Labor responses to questions asked by
Senator Williams...

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YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND WELFARE REFORM

JOBS, 1980

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 5, 1980

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT, POVERTY,

AND MIGRATORY LABOR,

COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND HUMAN RESOURCES,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4232, Dirksen Senate Office Building, commencing at 9:34 a.m., Senator Gaylord Nelson (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Senators Williams, Nelson, Javits, and Metzenbaum.

OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR NELSON

Senator NELSON. The Senate Subcommittee on Employment, Poverty, and Migratory Labor today begins 4 days of hearings on legislative proposals relating to youth employment and the administration's welfare reform jobs bill.

The subcommittee is pleased to have Secretary of Labor Ray Marshall as the leadoff witness at this set of hearings. A number of witnesses representing State, county and local governments, community-based organizations, vocational and educational agencies, employment and training institutions, and business and labor groups will also present testimony to the subcommittee.

However, before Secretary Marshall begins, I would like to make a brief opening statement.

During the past 3 years, the Congress has worked cooperatively and diligently with the Carter administration, and particularly with the Department of Labor, to develop a wide variety of employment and training programs to serve economically disadvantaged youth. In 1977, Congress enacted the Youth Employment and Demonstration Projects Act as a 3-year experimental program aimed at testing out various approaches to transitioning young people from school to work.

At the end of this fiscal year, that legislation expires. Therefore, Congress must decide what program or series of youth employment programs to reauthorize for future years, the length of the reauthorization, and the levels of spending for the programs.

On January 10, President Carter announced a major new education, training and employment program for youth. At that time the President stated that the youth program was his administration's "major domestic initiative for 1981." When fully implemented in 1982, the President's youth initiative, together with current youth programs, will provide almost $6 billion for basic education, work

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