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HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT

LEGISLATION—1971

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SECOND CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 9688

A BILL TO BROADEN THE NATIONAL HOUSING GOALS, TO PRO-
VIDE HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY DE-
VELOPMENT THROUGH BLOCK GRANTS WITH EMPHASIS UPON
THE PRESERVATION AND MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE EX-
ISTING HOUSING STOCK AND UPON THE REVITALIZATION OF
DECLINING NEIGHBORHOODS, TO IMPROVE PROGRAMS OF
FEDERAL PLANNING ASSISTANCE WITH EMPHASIS UPON MOD-
ERNIZING AND INCREASING THE MANAGEMENT CAPABILI-
TIES OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND FOR OTHER

PURPOSES

H.R. 9331

A BILL TO CONSOLIDATE, SIMPLIFY, AND IMPROVE LAWS
RELATING TO HOUSING AND HOUSING ASSISTANCE

H.R. 8853

A BILL TO PROVIDE FEDERAL REVENUES TO STATE AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND AFFORD THEM BROAD DISCRE-
TION IN CARRYING OUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVI-
TIES AND TO HELP STATES AND LOCALITIES TO IMPROVE
THEIR DECISIONMAKING AND MANAGEMENT CAPABILITIES

PART 1

AUGUST 3, 5; AND SEPTEMBER 8, 1971

Printed for the use of the Committee on Banking and Currency

66-842 O

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON: 1971

COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY

WRIGHT PATMAN, Texas, Chairman

WILLIAM A. BARRETT, Pennsylvania
LEONOR K. (MRS. JOHN B.) SULLIVAN,

Missouri

HENRY S. REUSS, Wisconsin

THOMAS L. ASHLEY, Ohio

WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania
ROBERT G. STEPHENS, JR., Georgia
FERNAND J. ST GERMAIN, Rhode Island
HENRY B. GONZALEZ, Texas
JOSEPH B. MINISH, New Jersey
RICHARD T. HANNA, California

TOM S. GETTYS, South Carolina
FRANK ANNUNZIO, Illinois
THOMAS M. REES, California
TOM BEVILL, Alabama
CHARLES H. GRIFFIN, Mississippi
JAMES M. HANLEY, New York
FRANK J. BRASCO, New York
BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida
EDWARD I. KOCH, New York
WILLIAM R. COTTER, Connecticut
PARREN J. MITCHELL, Maryland

WILLIAM B. WIDNALL, New Jersey
FLORENCE P. DWYER, New Jersey
ALBERT W. JOHNSON, Pennsylvania
J. WILLIAM STANTON, Ohio
BENJAMIN B. BLACKBURN, Georgia
GARRY BROWN, Michigan

LAWRENCE G. WILLIAMS, Pennsylvania
CHALMERS P. WYLIE, Ohio

MARGARET M. HECKLER, Massachusetts
PHILIP M. CRANE, Illinois

JOHN H. ROUSSELOT, California
STEWART B. MCKINNEY, Connecticut
NORMAN F. LENT, New York

BILL ARCHER, Texas

BILL FRENZEL, Minnesota

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CONTENTS

(The same table of contents appears in parts 1, 2, and 3)

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Alexander, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of
Arkansas

952

Alexander, Hon. Lee, mayor, city of Syracuse, N.Y., on behalf of the
National League of Cities, and the U.S. Conference of Mayors;
accompanied by David F. Garrison, legislative counsel, Washington,
D.C., and David S. Michel, commissioner, Department of Urban
Improvement, Syracuse, N.Y

Anderson, Hon. Glenn M., a Representative in Congress from the State

of California....

Bertsch, Dale F., executive director, Miami Valley Regional Planning
Commission___.

Biemiller, Andrew J., director, Department of Legislation, AFL-CIO;
accompanied by Nathaniel, Goldfinger, director, Department of Re-
search, and Ray Denison, legislative representative..

Bingham, Hon. Jonathan B., a Representative in Congress from the State
of New York..

Blatz, Hon. Frank H., Jr., mayor, city of Plainfield, N.J....

Bradley, Thomas, president, National Service to Regional Councils;

accompanied by Richard Hartman, director, and John Bosley, legal

counsel...

Brady, P. E. H., Toronto, Canada, former deputy managing director of

the Province of Ontario Housing Corp., on State and metropolitan

development agencies and housing block grants...

Brandon, D. David, director of program development, New York State

Urban Development Corp---

Charkoudian, Leon, commissioner, Department of Community Affairs,

State of Massachusetts, representing Gov. Francis W. Sargent and

the National Governors' Conference....

Claytor, Glenn A., director of housing, National Urban League; accom-
panied by Richard Mapp, associate director, Washington bureau---
Cochran, Clay L., executive director, Rural Housing Alliance; accom-
panied by Lee Reno, counsel__.

500

756

493

943

1187

689

562

Culver, Hon. John C., a Representative in Congress from the State of Page
Iowa...

Danahy, Hon. Paul W., Jr., chairman, Committee on Community Affairs,
Florida House of Representatives..

Davidoff, Paul, member, board of governors, American Institute of
Planners; accompanied by Joyce Whitley and Jerome Kaufman_-_-
Debs, Ernest E., supervisor, Los Angeles County, Calif., on behalf of the
National Association of Counties; accompanied by Joseph M. Pollard,
Washington representative for Los Angeles County, and Margaret S.
Seeley, legislative representative, National Association of Counties...
Fitch, Lyle C., president, Institute of Public Administration___
Fraser, Hon. Donald M., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Minnesota__

Fullerton, Richard L., Smyrna, Ga..

Galper, Harvey, economist, senior research staff, the Urban Institute,
Washington, D.C.

Goldfine, Beverly, Townview Improvement Corp., Duluth, Minn
Gordon, Ira H., president of the National Association of Building Manu-
facturers, accompanied by Richard L. Bullock, executive vice president;
and Charles L. Edson, general counsel..

Haskell, Harry G., Jr., mayor of the city of Wilmington, Del.-
Heller, Keith R., president, Cedar-Riverside Associates, Inc., Minne-
apolis, Minn.....

Hesburgh, Rev. Theodore M., C.S.C., Chairman, U.S. Commission on
Civil Rights; accompanied by John Buggs, acting staff director; John
Powell, general counsel; and Martin Sloane, acting deputy staff director
Holman, M. Carl, president, National Urban Coalition; accompanied by
Herbert Franklin, director, Division of Housing and Urban Growth-
Hovde, Donald I., chairman, Realtors' Washington Committee, National
Association of Real Estate Boards; accompanied by John C. William-
son, secretary and counsel.

Keith, Nathaniel S., president, National Housing Conference__
Kummerfeld, Donald D., director, Center for Political Research Washing-

ton, D.C., on housing block grants to State and metropolitan agencies – –
Laverne, Hon. Thomas, New York State senator, and chairman of the
New York Joint Legislative Committee on Metropolitan and Regional
Areas Study-

Maisel, Hon. Sherman J., Member, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve
System...

Maltester, Hon. Jack D., mayor, city of San Leandro, Calif_

May, Hon. Karl, mayor of the city of Waco, Tex., accompanied by David
Smith, city manager; and Jim Miller, director of Federal and State
relations__

Nasher, Raymond, D., Flower Mound New Town, Fort Worth, Tex..
Pellish, David M., AIA, AIP, technology officer, New York State Urban
Development Corp--

Piper, Robert J., AIA, AIP, on behalf of the American Institute of Archi-
tects; American Society of Civil Engineers; American Society of Con-
sulting Planners; American Society of Landscape Architects; The
Consulting Engineers Council of the United States; and the National
Society of Professional Engineers
Quinn, Vincent J., chairman, Committee on Mortgage Investments, Na-
tional Association of Mutual Savings Banks; accompanied by Dr. Saul
B. Klaman, vice president and chief economist; and Louis H. Nevins,
director-counsel, Washington office---

Romney, Hon. George, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;
accompanied by Eugene A. Gulledge, Assistant Secretary for Housing
Production and Mortgage Credit, FHA Commissioner; Floyd H. Hyde,
Assistant Secretary for Community Development; and David Maxwell,
general counsel__

Ryan, Hon. William F., a Representative in Congress from the State of
New York..

1025

424

671

550

579

917

1307

801

922

853

758

1212

1099

901

1062

1131

347

413

865

457

775

1227

610

615

1082

69

1152

Schussheim, Dr. Morton J., professor of city planning, University of Pennsylvania, on community development block grants-

350

Slayton, William L., executive vice president, American Institute of Architects, Washington, D.C.-

660

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