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Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. How long was it after Porter told you that he was going to Milwaukee that you got the check from Mr. Edmonds? Mr. HULBERT. About two days.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. About two days after that?

Mr. HULBERT. As near as I can remember.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. From that I take it you inferred, judging from what you said on your direct examination, that Mr. Porter had been to Milwaukee, and had seen Mr. Edmonds, and had told him what you were doing?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir. I had an idea that that was what he had done.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. The next thing that you knew about it was that you got a check from Mr. Edmonds?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. And the next thing that occurred was that a month or so afterwards you discussed it with Mr. Porter?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. And Mr. Porter wanted to know if you had gotten money enough to reimburse you for what you had disbursed?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. And you said you had?

Mr. HULBERT. I said I was satisfied.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. And you had received more?

Mr. HULBERT. I had received more.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. At the time you got this check from Mr. Edmonds, so far as you know, neither Porter nor Edmonds knew how much money you had disbursed in this manner?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You had not seen Porter to make any report to him as to the precise amounts you had paid these men?

Mr. HULBERT. I do not think he came back for about a month, as near as I can remember.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. He left for Milwaukee, and you did not see him again for about a month?

Mr. HULBERT. No; he went to the soldiers' reunion, and stopped to see his brother, I think, on the way.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Who introduced this question as to the sums that you had advanced at Mr. Porter's request when you saw him next after he left for Milwaukee-you or Mr. Porter, so far as you remember? Mr. HULBERT. I would not want to state that. I do not just remember about it.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You are not quite certain about it?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; I am not.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. But in any event, the subject matter was brought up between you?

Mr. HULBERT. I think I brought it up, but I would not be certain. Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You never have received anything from Mr. Porter on account of the sums that you paid out at Mr. Porter's request?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; not a cent.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You paid out, as you say, no other sums than those that you have indicated?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; not a cent.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You did no work in that campaign?
Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. In the interest of Mr. Stephenson?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD You did no campaigning?

Mr. HULBERT. No campaigning: no, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. You did not discuss the question in his interest? Mr HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. I understand you to say that you had been for him ever since his candidacy was announced?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. But you did not do any canvassing or discussing?
Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Did you solicit any votes for the Senator?
Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Was any of this money that was disbursed by you under these circumstances disbursed for the purpose of either directly or indirectly bribing or corruptly influencing any elector in that primary election in the interest of Senator Stephenson?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; not by me.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Were any of the sums that you paid to these men, so far as you know, used by either or any of them, either directly or indirectly, for the purpose of bribing or corruptly influencing any electors in that primary election in the interest of Senator Stephenson? Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; not so far as I know.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Did you ever have any information that any such use was made of it?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. That is all.

Senator POMERENE. You were a game warden at the time, were you?

Mr. HULBERT. I was; yes, sir.

Senator POMERENE. Was that the reason why you did not take an active part?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir. I was a game warden and under civil service, and not supposed to take any part in politics.

Senator POMERENE. If you had not been a game warden, of course you would have been more active for Senator Stephenson? Mr. HULBERT. I think I should.

Senator POMERENE. That did not prevent your accepting a present, did it?

Mr. HULBERT. No, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. I have heard a good deal about the civil service in connection with the game wardens. I do not know how much you may know about the law, Mr. Hulbert, but I should like to have you call my attention to the section in the law that prohibits a game warden from taking any active part in a political campaign. I have not been able to find it, but it may be that you can.

Mr. HULBERT. I do not know that I can find it. It is in the civilservice laws, I think.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Is there anything in the civil-service law except a provision that prohibits any official of the State of Wisconsin mak

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ing any assessment on other officers, agents, and employees of the State of Wisconsin? Do you know of any statute outside of that? Mr. HULBERT. I do not know that I do, but

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Is that what you refer to as this civil-service law that is talked about so much?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. A law that provides that no assessment, contribution, or advancement shall be collected by an official of the State of Wisconsin from other officers, agents, and employees? That is the law you mean, is it not?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Senator POMERENE. What section is it?

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. We have it right here somewhere; and it has not any more to do with the political activity of these game wardens than the occultation of Orion.

Senator POMERENE. I have not had an opportunity to consult it. Mr. LITTLEFIELD. I will get it for your honor. I want to see if this is really what these men had in their minds.

I will read this, Mr. Hulbert, and see if this is what you had in your mind:

No officer, agent, clerk, or employee under the government of the State shall, directly, or indirectly, solicit or receive or be concerned in any manner in soliciting or receiving any assessment, subscription, or contribution for political service, whether voluntary or involuntary, for any political purpose whatever, from anv officer, agent, clerk, or employee of the State.

Is that what you mean? Do you know anything of any other statute except that?

Mr. HULBERT. No; I do not know that I know of any other statute, but I know that we have been told that we were not supposed to take part in politics.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. This is the only law that you know anything about that relates to the subject matter?

Mr. HULBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. It is simply a statute prohibiting assessments. Senator POMERENE. That is all so far as you know?

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. That is all I have ever been able to find. That is what this committee predicates its very extraordinary conclusions upon.

The CHAIRMAN. That is, the State senate investigating committee. Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Not this committee? Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Oh, no. I hope not. I do not suggest any such unfounded and utterly groundless reflection so far as this committee is concerned; but the solons that prepared this report are the men that have undertaken to warp and twist matters for the purpose of embarrassing these people who are the game wardens.

The CHAIRMAN. I hope they will be before the committee.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. Yes; I hope so. There is no statute of Wisconsin that denaturizes even a game warden, or deprives him of his right as an American citizen to participate in a campaign. I undertake to state that as a matter of law.

The CHAIRMAN. Is there any further examination of this witness? Mr. LITTLEFIELD. That is all. I just wanted to find out what this bugbear was.

TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM C. HASLAM.

WILLIAM C. HASLAM, having been duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Haslam, where do you reside?

Mr. HASLAM. Chicago, Ill.

The CHAIRMAN. Where did you reside during the summer of 1908? Mr. HASLAM. Appleton, Wis.

The CHAIRMAN. What business were you engaged in?

Mr. HASLAM. Deputy game warden.

The CHAIRMAN. Did you participate in the campaign of Senator Stephenson for nomination as United States Senator before the direct primaries?

Mr. HASLAM. I did.

The CHAIRMAN. Did you receive money from Senator Stephenson or from his campaign managers for assisting in that campaign? Mr. HASLAM. I did.

The CHAIRMAN. How much?

Mr. HASLAM. $626.

The CHAIRMAN. When did you receive it?

Mr. HASLAM. I received $200 in cash from Mr. Edmonds, at Appleton, in the fore part of August.

The CHAIRMAN. August 13, was it not?

Mr. HASLAM. Somewhere along in there.

The CHAIRMAN. When did you receive the next sum from him? Mr. HASLAM. I would not be able to give the dates. I think I received it in two different checks, in sums of $200 each.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. The first was in currency and the last two in checks?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes; as my memory serves me at the present time. The third check that I received, for $26, was some time in September. Senator POMERENE. When you say "the third check".

Mr. HASLAM. That is the third check.

Senator POMERENE. You got one sum in cash and two checks? Mr. HASLAM. Two checks of $200, and then $26 in a check after the primary.

The CHAIRMAN. You mean two checks aggregating $200, do you? Mr. HASLAM. $200 each.

Mr. LITTLEFIELD. $200 each; $400 altogether.

The CHAIRMAN. So you received $626?

Mr. HASLAM. $626.

The CHAIRMAN. For what did you receive that money?

Mr. HASLAM. To take charge of his interests in Brown County as

his manager.

The CHAIRMAN. What did you do with the money?

Mr. HASLAM. I spent $426 for expenses incurred in carrying on the work there in Brown County; $200 I kept for myself. Mr. LITTLEFIELD. For your services?

Mr. HASLAM. For my services.

The CHAIRMAN. How did you spend the $400 ?

Mr. HASLAM. I hired billposters, men to get me lists of voters in precincts, and men with teams in certain localities to bring voters to the polls. distribute campaign buttons and cards and literature.

The CHAIRMAN. Just a moment at this point. Mr. Hulbert will remain in attendance. He will be wanted as a witness on Tuesday after Mr. Stone has testified. I neglected to say that.

Proceed with the statement as to how you expended this money. Mr. HASLAM. For railroad fare and for eatables for myself, and expense incurred in that way-postage stamps, stenographers, stationery, telephones, and telegrams.

The CHAIRMAN. You rendered a statement of a portion of this money before the committee when you were examined, did you not! Mr. HASLAM. I gave the statement from memory as nearly as I I could call it to mind at the time.

The CHAIRMAN. We have here Exhibit 453, page 3937, of items which you claim to have expended. This would seem to be made out by you.

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir; I made it out from memory.

The CHAIRMAN. From memory?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Are the items enumerated in that statement correct?

Mr. HASLAM. They are.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you any other items to add to those in the

statement?

Mr. HASLAM. Not one.

The CHAIRMAN. This accounts for a little over $100?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. You kept how much for your own salary or expenses?

Mr. HASLAM. $200. No; I kept that as my salary, and I used the other.

The CHAIRMAN. For your salary? Then you charged your expenses in addition to that; did you?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And you got $626 in all?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And you have accounted for about $426, have you?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir; I think so.

The CHAIRMAN. You say you expended that in the manner enumerated?

Mr. HASLAM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Did you expend any of that money for the purchase of liquor or cigars?

Mr. HASLAM. I might say in that regard that I had this money in cash, and used it along. I might have bought cigars and I might have bought liquor for myself.

The CHAIRMAN. You say you "might have done so." Did you buy it?

Mr. HASLAM. I certainly must have, in a campaign of that nature. The CHAIRMAN. How much did you estimate that you expended for cigars out of that money?

Mr. HASLAM. Oh, perhaps well, that is a pretty hard question. I may have expended $10; I may have expended $25. The CHAIRMAN. Not to exceed $25?

Mr. HASLAM. No, sir; no, sir.

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