(c) The Commission shall request the Secretary of each Federal Department or head of any independent agency which includes an agency or agencies with a direct interest and responsibility in any phase of outdoor recreation to appoint, and he shall appoint for each such agency a liaison officer who shall work closely with the Commission and its staff.

SEC. 5. (a) There is hereby established an advisory council which shall consist of the liaison officers appointed under section 4 (c), together with twentyfive additional members appointed by the Commission who shall be representative of the various major geographical areas and citizen interest groups including the following: State game and fish departments, State park departments, State forestry departments, private organizations working in the field of outdoor recreation resources and opportunities, landowners, State water pollution control agencies, State water development agencies, private forestry interests, livestock interests, mining interests, State travel commissions, petroleum production interests, commercial fishing interests, commercial outdoor recreation interests, industry, education, labor, public utilities, and municipal governments. (b) The functions of the advisory council shall be to advise and counsel the Commission in the development of ways, means, and procedures whereby maximum cooperation may be obtained from all agencies and groups whose assistance in accomplishing the purposes of this Act will be required in arriving at sound methods and criteria for evaluating outdoor recreation resources data assembled and otherwise to advise and assist the Commission in carrying out the purposes of the Act.

(c) Members of the advisory council, except those employed by the Federal Government and assigned to the Commission as liaison officers, shall serve without compensation except that each shall be entitled to reimbursement for actual travel and subsistence expenses incurred in attending meetings of the advisory council called by the Chairman of the Commission, or incurred in carrying out duties assigned by the Chairman of the Commission.

(d) The Chairman of the Commission shall call an initial organization meeting of the advisory council, a meeting of such council each six months thereafter, and a final meeting of such council prior to transmitting the final report to the President and the Congress.

SEC. 6. (a) The Commission shall proceed as soon as practicable to set in motion a nationwide inventory and evaluation of outdoor recreation resources and opportunities, directly and through the Federal agencies, the States, and private organizations and groups, utilizing to the fullest extent possible such studies, data, and reports previously prepared or concurrently in process by Federal agencies, States, private organizations, groups, and others.

(b) The Commission shall compile such data and in the light of the data so compiled and of information available concerning trends in population, leisure, transportation, and other factors shall determine the amount, kind, quality, and location of such outdoor recreation resources and opportunities as will be required by the year 1976 and the year 2000, and shall recommend what policies should best be adopted and what programs be initiated, at each level of government and by private organizations and other citizen groups and interests, to meet such future requirements.

(c) The Commission shall present not later than September 1, 1961, a report of its review, a compilation of its data, and its recommendations on a State by State, region by region, and national basis to the President and to the Congress, and shall cease to exist not later than one year thereafter. Such report, compilation, and recommendations shall be presented in such form as to make them of maximum value to the States and shall include recommendations as to means whereby the review may effectively be kept current in the future. The Commission, on its own initiative or on request of the President or the Congress, shall prepare interim or progress reports on particular phases of its review.

(d) The Commission is authorized to conduct public hearings and otherwise to secure data and expressions of opinion.

(e) The Commission is authorized to make direct grants to the States, and to transfer necessary funds to Federal agencies, from sums appropriated pursuant to section 8, to carry out such aspects of the review as the Commission may determine can best be carried out by the States, or Federal agencies, under such arrangements and agreements as are determined by the Commission; and may enter into contracts or agreements for studies and surveys with public or private agencies and organizations. The Commission is also authorized to reimburse Federal agencies for the expenses of liaison officers appointed under section 4 (c) and other cooperation.

SEC. 7. The Commission, in its inquiries, findings, and recommendations, shall recognize that present and future solutions to problems of outdoor recreation resources and opportunities are responsibilities at all levels of government, from local to Federal, and of individuals and private organizations as well. The Commission shall recognize that lands, waters, forests, rangelands, wetlands, wildlife, and such other natural resources that serve economic purposes also serve to varying degrees and for varying uses outdoor recreation purposes, and that sound planning of resource utilization for the full future welfare of the Nation must include coordination and integration of all such multiple uses. SEC. 8. There are hereby authorized to be appropriated not more than $2,500,000 to carry out the purposes of this Act, and such moneys as may be appropriated shall be available to the Commission until expended.

SEC. 9. This Act may be cited as "the Outdoor Recreation Resources Review Act."

Approved June 28, 1958.

Senator BARRETT. Mr. Chairman, I have to leave also. I would like to make a little statement.

STATEMENT OF HON. FRANK A. BARRETT, UNITED STATES SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WYOMING

I notice in looking over your list that a number of wires from Wyoming have already been included in the record, but just before I came over here, I received a telephone call from the Chairman of the National Resources Board, of which the Governor is a member, and presides over quite frequently. They say that they have upward of 100 citizens of Wyoming that want to be heard on this bill. If you persist in going ahead with the hearings, they want a week or 10 days' time and they will come down here. But I don't see why we should not give the people of the West an opportunity to testify on this measure on their own home ground, as the Senator from Utah indicated a moment ago.

The CHAIRMAN. Of course, that matter will be taken up by the committee and a schedule of hearings will be established, I suppose, if the committee feels it is necessary to do so. I am sure that every member of the committee is vitally interested in this legislation. We are all anxious to see that proper legislation is enacted and that no injustice is done to any section of the country.

Senator BARRETT. I knew the chairman would take that position. I appreciate it very much. I will convey that information back to them.

Would you say that we could have hearings in the West if we have to go ahead with this measure? We do have this Outdoor Recreation Commission established now for the purpose of making a survey of our outdoor resources. Certainly they are going to go into all of these matters very thoroughly, I hope. We are interested in Wyoming, as in any other State in the country, the West and all, in developing our outdoor resources. It is a big business in Wyoming, this recreation business.

The CHAIRMAN. That same argument can be applied to nearly all of the Western States.

Senator BARRETT. Except that we are just a little bit ahead of the rest of the Western States.

The CHAIRMAN. How about Montana?

Senator BARRETT. Well, I think you come in fairly close.

The CHAIRMAN. I think we are a little ahead of all of you. We have two great reservations there, the Yellowstone National Park and the Glacier.

Senator BARRETT. Well, you have a few acres of Yellowstone out there, that is true, but we have always regarded it as a part of Wyoming territory.

The CHAIRMAN. You just look at the map and you can see for yourself that it is Montana territory.

Senator BARRETT. By golly, that is a new one on me. I thought maybe it was Dakota territory.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, you will learn a lot in this committee.

Senator BARRETT. I don't want to have to unlearn a lot of things, though. Anyway, Mr. Chairman, I would appreciate the opportunity of putting this wire that I received just a few moments ago into the record.

The CHAIRMAN. It may be placed in the record at this point. (The document referred to follows:)

Senator FRANK BARRETT,

Washington, D. C.:

RIVERTON, Wyo., July 23, 1958.

Have just learned that hearings will begin tomorrow on S. 4028, wilderness bill. The timber operators of Wyoming request that wilderness bills should be held in abeyance until we have opportunity to present testimony. This is of most vital importance to operators of Wyoming.

EMPIRE TIMBER TREATING Co.,
W. E. BICKEL, President.

Senator BARRETT. I can assure the people that they will be heard at a later date and, if possible, out in the field?

The CHAIRMAN. We will give that careful study. Of course, I don't suppose we can hold hearings at this late date all around the country.

Senator WATKINS. Mr. Chairman, we are not going to be outdone by Wyoming. If they can furnish 100 that want to testify, we will have 500. We would like to have them there, so that they will not spend thousands of dollars to testify.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, we have the whole population of the State of Montana interested in it.

Senator NEUBERGER (presiding). Our next witness will be Mr. Edward Crafts, the Assistant Chief, United States Forest Service. Mr. Crafts, we are glad to have you here.

Before Mr. Crafts commences, I would like to have the record note that we have a distinguished visitor from Japan with us. I have a letter from Mr. Tsuyoshi Tamura, chairman of the board of directors of the National Association of Japan.

Hello, Mr. Tamura, it is so nice to see you. We are happy that you are here. We would be delighted if you would sit at the table next to Senator Bible.

The letter noting Mr. Tamura's presence, a letter he has written to Mr. Fred Packard, executive secretary of the National Parks Association, will be made part of the hearing record.

(The document referred to follows:)

NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION OF JAPAN,
MINISTRY OF WELFARE,

Kasumigaseki, Chiyoda-Ku, Tokyo, Japan, June 2, 1958.

Mr. FRED M. PACKARD,

Executive Secretary, National Parks Association,

Washington, D. C.

DEAR SIR: It is one of a nation's basic duties to preserve wilderness areas in its land for its people of present and future. It is a cultural duty not only of those who own and/or administer such areas but also of each nation and people's responsibility to protect nature of geographical features for the welfare of the people of the world.

The preservation of wilderness is one of the most emergent issues in Japan, and the best possible measures for this purpose are now under study at the special committee organized by scientists and personnel concerned in national parks.

If an intention of the same nature should fail to be realized in the United States, it would be a grave shock to other nations, especially of Orient, which are struggling for that purpose. We herewith sincerely pray that your association and organizations and citizens who support you would succeed in attain. ing your aim.

Sincerely yours,

TSUYOSHI TAMURA, Chairman, Board of Directors.

Senator NEUBERGER. Mr. Crafts, please proceed.

STATEMENT OF EDWARD C. CRAFTS, ASSISTANT CHIEF, FOREST SERVICE, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

Mr. CRAFTS. Mr. Chairman, and committee members, I am glad to respond to the committee's request to state the views of the Department of Agriculture on S. 4028, a bill to establish a national wilderness preservation system for the permanent good of the whole people, and for other purposes.

As stated in the formal report of the Department, we are sympathetic with the general objectives of the bill. If amended as recommended in that report, the Department of Agriculture favors its enactment insofar as it affects the Department's activities.

S. 4028 is a revision of S. 1176 on which the Department formally reported on June 19, 1957. The Chief of the Forest Service also appeared before your committee in the hearings on S. 1176 and stated the views of the Department on that bill. The Department recommended that S. 1176 not be enacted and submitted with its report a suggested draft of a substitute bill.

S. 4028 includes, or is compatible with, numerous provisions recommended by the Department in its substitute bill. It also omits certain of the provisions of S. 1176 to which the Department objected. However, the Department still objects to certain of the provisions retained in S. 4028.

I shall not describe the provisions of S. 4028 because they are summarized in the Department's report, and the members of the committee are familiar with the bill.

Neither will I describe the situation as to establishment and administration of wilderness areas within the national forests. This was described in detail in our report and McArdle's testimony on S. 1176 a year ago and there has been no material change since that time.

But it is worth emphasizing that the Department recognizes wilderness to be a proper and desirable use of the national forests. The

Department has steadfastly maintained its policy of administering selected national-forest areas as wilderness for over 30 years.

We believe that wilderness use is compatible with the guiding national-forest principles of multiple use and sustained yield of products and services.

The first wilderness-type area was established in the national forests in 1924. Today there are a total of 82 such areas comprising about 14 million acres. The acreage of national-forest land dedicated to wilderness has not changed appreciably in the last 20 years despite increased use and intensified management of the national forests.

The three principal changes which the Department of Agriculture recommends be made in S. 4028 if it is to be enacted are:

1. All provisions with respect to establishment of the National Wilderness Preservation Council should be deleted. The bill would establish such a Council to be comprised of the Secretaries of the Interior, Agriculture, and the Smithsonian Institution, and three citizen members to be appointed by the President.

The Council would have no real powers and would impose added recordkeeping, paperwork, and expense upon the Department.

As its name indicates, the Council would be concerned solely with wilderness preservation. Wilderness is only one of numerous recreational type uses of the national forests; and recreational use of the national forests is only one of a number of multiple uses for which the national forests are administered.

The statutory establishment of a council to be concerned only with a limited phase of a single use might well invite proposals for statutory establishment of similar single-interest councils to be concerned with other individual national-forest uses.

This would run counter to the long-established policy of multipleuse administration of the national forests in which consideration must be given to all uses in proper balance. We believe that there is no need for such a council, that it would serve no really useful purpose, and that it might set an undesirable precedent, foster undue attention to wilderness areas, and hamper multiple-use administration of the national forests.

2. Primitive areas now in the national forests should be temporarily included in the wilderness system, but should remain there only if the Secretary of Agriculture, within 15 years, determines them to be predominantly of wilderness value. The Secretary should be directed to make such determinations within the specified time.

There are now in the national forests 42 primitive areas, containing a total of 8.2 million acres. These primitive areas are the residual of a much larger number that were established prior to 1939, at which time secretarial regulations were issued providing for the establishment of wilderness and wild areas. Since then and pending their reclassification as wilderness or wild areas, the Department has been managing these primitive areas in accordance with the secretarial regulations for wilderness areas.

We have been restudying these areas, making boundary adjustments where needed, and reclassifying as wilderness or wild areas those primitive areas or portions thereof that are predominantly valuable for wilderness.

The areas which still retain their designation as primitive areas have not yet been reexamined as to wilderness standards and there has