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The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Gould, is there an association of people engaged in the type of work that you are engaged in?

Mr. GOULD. I am not sure I understand what you mean, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Is there any organization, the membership of which is comprised of the people doing what you are doing?

Mr. GOULD. I belong to a trade union; yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Are there members of that union who have access to radio sending and receiving equipment?

Mr. GOULD. Yes. Well, yes, the union would cover all the employees of the industry.

The CHAIRMAN. Are any of the members of that group members of the Communist Party?

Mr. GOULD. I refuse to answer on the same grounds as previously stated.

The CHAIRMAN. It seems to me your union ought to do a little looking around.

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Mr. DOYLE. I wish to make this observation, Mr. Chairman. Making allowance for the fact that maybe folks were members of the Communist Party, some of them heretofore, I do not understand, sir, how you are evidently in some position at present where you decline to answer whether or not you are now a member of the Communist Party. I do not understand how you can be in the position you are in and have to claim the privilege on that question. (The witness conferred with his counsel.)

Mr. GOULD. On the advice of counsel

Mr. DOYLE. I beg your pardon?

Mr. GOULD. Every answer to every question I have given has been on the advice of my counsel.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, I hope your counsel didn't get you into trouble.

Are there any further questions?

If not, the witness is excused. Call your next witness.

Mr. ARENS. There are no further witnesses for today, Mr. Chair

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The CHAIRMAN. The committee now stands adjourned.

(Members of the committee present at time of adjournment: Representatives Walter, Doyle, and Johansen.)

(Whereupon, at 11 a.m. Wednesday, August 24, 1960, the committee adjourned, to reconvene at the call of the Chair.)

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