S. 174, H.R. 293, H.R. 299, H.R. 496, H.R. 776, H.R. 1762, H.R. 1925, H.R. 2008, and H.R. 8237 BILLS TO ESTABLISH A NATIONAL WILDERNESS PRESERVATION AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES NOVEMBER 6, 1961-SACRAMENTO, CALIF. Serial No. 12 PART III Printed for the use of the U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 1962 77350 COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS WAYNE N. ASPINALL, Colorado, Chairman LEO W. O'BRIEN, New York JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania WALTER ROGERS, Texas J. ERNEST WHARTON, New York GRACIE PFOST, Idaho E. Y. BERRY, South Dakota JAMES A. HALEY, Florida JACK WESTLAND, Washington ED EDMONDSON, Oklahoma CRAIG HOSMER, California J. T. RUTHERFORD, Texas J. EDGAR CHENOWETH, Colorado WALTER S. BARING, Nevada GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska D. S. (JUDGE) SAUND, California ODIN LANGEN, Minnesota THOMAS G. MORRIS, New Mexico JOHN KYL, Iowa RALPH J. RIVERS, Alaska WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON, Wyoming ROY A. TAYLOR, North Carolina EDWIN R. DURNO, Oregon DAVID S. KING, Utah PETER H, DOMINICK, Colorado HJALMAR C. NYGAARD, North Dakota A. FERNÓS-ISERN (Resident Commissioner), HUGH L. CAREY, New York Puerto Rico RICHARD (DICK) ICHORD, Missouri SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS GRACIE PFOST, Idaho, Chair man WALTER S. BARING, Nevada JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania D. S. (JUDGE) SAUND, California JACK WESTLAND, Washington RALPH J. RIVERS, Alaska GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska DAVID S. KING, Utah ODIN LANGEN, Minnesota HAROLD T. JOHNSON, California EDWIN R. DURNO, Oregon JULIA BUTLER HANSEN, Washington PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado ARNOLD OLSEN, Montana HJALMAR C. NYGAARD, North Dakota RICHARD (DICK) ICHORD, Missouri MILTON A. PEARL, Consultant on Public Lands T. RICHARD WITMER, Counsel 893 827 Kenneth Anderson, Roosevelt, Calif. Mrs. J. B. Atkisson, conservation chairman, California Federation H. C. Bradley, M.D., Berkeley, Calif- Mrs. Betty Č. Carl, chairman, Pioneer Camping Committee, Camp Fire Girls, Sacramento, Calif. Rev. Don M. Chase, St. Andrews Methodist Church, Sacramento, Lewis F. Clark, president, Federation of Western Outdoor Clubs, Mrs. LaVerne N. Cohen, Sacramento, Calif.. Harold E. Crowe, M.D., honorary vice president, Sierra Club, Los Angeles, Calif. Paul Cooley, Los Angeles, Calif. Rav Crane, Crane Mills, Corning, Calif John Parkes Davis, attorney at law, New Verde Mines Co., Grass John B. DeWitt, Sacramento, Calif. George D. Difani, representing the Associated Sportsmen of California - Stuart R. Dole, on behalf of Trustees for Conservation.. John C. Dozier, professional forester, representing the Madera County Fred H. Dressler, Gardnersville, Nev., president, American National Cattlemen's Association. Beula Edminston, secretary of the Committee for the Preservation of the Tule Elk, Los Angeles, Calif. Philip W. Faulconer, Berkeley, Calif... Sheldon P. Fay, president, U.S. Pumice Supply Co., Inc., Los Angeles, Glen D. Franklin, on behalf of the Alaska Miners Association, Fair- banks, Alaska. Carmichael, Calif. Oil & Gas Association.. Association, Inc.- W. Howard Gray, Nevada Mining Association, Inc. Mrs. Fern Hall, San Francisco, Calif., representing the California 753 831 800 756 Alpine Club. Bill Hawkins, Pacific Union College. Ralph Hawkins, M.D., Palo Alto, Calif Samuel G. Houghton, Reno, Nev. Mrs. Lisa Howard, Sacramento, Calif. Joe Hughes, Hughes Bros., Foresthill, Calif. E. P. Ivory, Western Lumber Manufacturers, Inc., San Francisco, Calif.. Mrs. Del Mar Janson, Sacramento, Calif. 867 853 883 884 878 908 895 798 784 886 863 792 747 782 887 822 872 782 738 904 845 736 806 795 Statement of—Continued Arthur B. Johnson, consulting engineer, West Covina, Calif. sources, Phoenix, Ariz. tion, Seattle, Wash. Architects, Sacramento, Calif... Calif. ation of California, Sacramento, Calif. Calif Supervisors, Madera, Calif Calif. Calif.. State College, Sacramento, Calif. Reno, Nev. of the State Grazing Board of Nevada Calif. chapter of the Nature Conservancy. Francisco, Calif. Mining Co., Tucson, Ariz.. Clubs Clubs, Inc., Indio, Calif. Calif fornia Wool Growers Association. Calif. 904 786 899 885 842 761 900 808 903 859 847 880 766 772 895 829 839 811 856 827 WILDERNESS PRESERVATION SYSTEM MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1961 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Sacramento, Calif. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4203, State Capitol Building, at 10:10 a.m., Hon. Gracie Pfost (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Mrs. PFOST. The Subcommittee on Public Lands will now come to order for the consideration of proposed wilderness legislation. Before we start this morning the Chair would like to make an announcement that even though we should like very much to accommodate tape recorders, TV stations, and photographers, the rules of the House prevent us from having pictures taken or tape recordings made during a regular session. Therefore, if a picture is needed or wanted, we shall be very happy to temporarily recess, allow the picture to be made, and then go back into session so that we can accommodate anyone who wishes to take pictures. Before we start, we should like to introduce the members of our subcommittee. To my immediate left is the gentleman from Alaska, Congressman Ralph Rivers, and to his left the Congressman from North Dakota, Mr. Nygaard. And to my right, I am sure I do not need to introduce this gentleman because you people probably know him almost better than those of us serving on the committee with him because I understand he was in your State legislature for 10 years and lives just 18 miles from the heart of Sacramento, the Honorable Harold Johnson from your own beautiful Sacramento Valley area. Then we have our staff members: our consultant on public lands, to Mr. Johnson's right, Mr. Milton Pearl, and to his right is the counsel of our committee, Mr. Richard Witmer, and down in front is our reporter, Mr. Karl Veley. I am delighted to come back to the lovely, sunshiny Sacramento Valley. I have been here several times and have some friendships of long standing, and it is always a pleasure to return again. The Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs of the House of Representatives has had referred to it eight wilderness bills, but in the interest of time, we are going to refer today to S. 174, the Senatepassed bill which has also been referred to our committee. Within the Interior and Insular Affairs Committee I have the honor to serve as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Public Lands, which is charged with the direct responsibility for examining the need for legislation in this field and making recommendations to the full com |
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