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S. 174, H.R. 293, H.R. 299, H.R. 496, H.R. 776, H.R. 1762,
H.R. 1925, H.R. 2008, and H.R. 8237
BILLS TO ESTABLISH A NATIONAL WILDERNESS PRESERVATION
AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
NOVEMBER 6, 1961-SACRAMENTO, CALIF.
Serial No. 12
Printed for the use of the
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1962
COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS
WAYNE N. ASPINALL, Colorado, Chairman LEO W. O'BRIEN, New York
JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania WALTER ROGERS, Texas
J. ERNEST WHARTON, New York GRACIE PFOST, Idaho
E. Y. BERRY, South Dakota JAMES A. HALEY, Florida
JACK WESTLAND, Washington ED EDMONDSON, Oklahoma
CRAIG HOSMER, California J. T. RUTHERFORD, Texas
J. EDGAR CHENOWETH, Colorado WALTER S. BARING, Nevada
GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska D. S. (JUDGE) SAUND, California
ODIN LANGEN, Minnesota THOMAS G. MORRIS, New Mexico
JOHN KYL, Iowa RALPH J. RIVERS, Alaska
WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON, Wyoming ROY A. TAYLOR, North Carolina
EDWIN R. DURNO, Oregon DAVID S. KING, Utah
PETER H, DOMINICK, Colorado
HJALMAR C. NYGAARD, North Dakota
A. FERNÓS-ISERN (Resident Commissioner), HUGH L. CAREY, New York
Puerto Rico RICHARD (DICK) ICHORD, Missouri
SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS
GRACIE PFOST, Idaho, Chair man WALTER S. BARING, Nevada
JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania D. S. (JUDGE) SAUND, California
JACK WESTLAND, Washington RALPH J. RIVERS, Alaska
GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska DAVID S. KING, Utah
ODIN LANGEN, Minnesota HAROLD T. JOHNSON, California
EDWIN R. DURNO, Oregon JULIA BUTLER HANSEN, Washington PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado ARNOLD OLSEN, Montana
HJALMAR C. NYGAARD, North Dakota RICHARD (DICK) ICHORD, Missouri
MILTON A. PEARL, Consultant on Public Lands
T. RICHARD WITMER, Counsel
H. C. Bradley, M.D., Berkeley, Calif-
Mrs. LaVerne N. Cohen, Sacramento, Calif..
John Parkes Davis, attorney at law, New Verde Mines Co., Grass
Fred H. Dressler, Gardnersville, Nev., president, American National
Glen D. Franklin, on behalf of the Alaska Miners Association, Fair-
Oil & Gas Association..
Bill Hawkins, Pacific Union College.
Ralph Hawkins, M.D., Palo Alto, Calif
Samuel G. Houghton, Reno, Nev.
Mrs. Lisa Howard, Sacramento, Calif.
Joe Hughes, Hughes Bros., Foresthill, Calif.
E. P. Ivory, Western Lumber Manufacturers, Inc., San Francisco,
Mrs. Del Mar Janson, Sacramento, Calif.
747 782 887
Arthur B. Johnson, consulting engineer, West Covina, Calif.
sources, Phoenix, Ariz.
tion, Seattle, Wash.
Architects, Sacramento, Calif...
ation of California, Sacramento, Calif.
Supervisors, Madera, Calif
State College, Sacramento, Calif.
of the State Grazing Board of Nevada
chapter of the Nature Conservancy.
Mining Co., Tucson, Ariz..
Clubs, Inc., Indio, Calif.
fornia Wool Growers Association.
904 786 899 885 842
900 808 903
WILDERNESS PRESERVATION SYSTEM
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1961
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
Sacramento, Calif. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4203, State Capitol Building, at 10:10 a.m., Hon. Gracie Pfost (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
Mrs. PFOST. The Subcommittee on Public Lands will now come to order for the consideration of proposed wilderness legislation.
Before we start this morning the Chair would like to make an announcement that even though we should like very much to accommodate tape recorders, TV stations, and photographers, the rules of the House prevent us from having pictures taken or tape recordings made during a regular session. Therefore, if a picture is needed or wanted, we shall be very happy to temporarily recess, allow the picture to be made, and then go back into session so that we can accommodate anyone who wishes to take pictures.
Before we start, we should like to introduce the members of our subcommittee.
To my immediate left is the gentleman from Alaska, Congressman Ralph Rivers, and to his left the Congressman from North Dakota, Mr. Nygaard. And to my right, I am sure I do not need to introduce this gentleman because you people probably know him almost better than those of us serving on the committee with him because I understand he was in your State legislature for 10 years and lives just 18 miles from the heart of Sacramento, the Honorable Harold Johnson from your own beautiful Sacramento Valley area.
Then we have our staff members: our consultant on public lands, to Mr. Johnson's right, Mr. Milton Pearl, and to his right is the counsel of our committee, Mr. Richard Witmer, and down in front is our reporter, Mr. Karl Veley.
I am delighted to come back to the lovely, sunshiny Sacramento Valley. I have been here several times and have some friendships of long standing, and it is always a pleasure to return again.
The Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs of the House of Representatives has had referred to it eight wilderness bills, but in the interest of time, we are going to refer today to S. 174, the Senatepassed bill which has also been referred to our committee.
Within the Interior and Insular Affairs Committee I have the honor to serve as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Public Lands, which is charged with the direct responsibility for examining the need for legislation in this field and making recommendations to the full com