are cases in which the numbers of students indicated can be accommodated by crowding in other dormitories and/or accommodation of graduate students in Fowler Hall, thus delaying the necessity for the indicated dormitory until the following fall.

PROPOSED INCREASE IN TUITION IN 1966

Senator COTTON. I happen to be a very ardent supporter of your institution. We have had several students of my personal acquaintance from my State who have really done marvelously there. Last year I was largely responsible for an action which may have been displeasing to you. Last year you proposed an increase in tuition and in the committee I urged the chairman to prevent that and to add enough to your appropriation to take care of the problem. Did that upset any particular plans of yours?

Mr. ELSTAD. Not particularly; we feel this is one way where the States can pay a part of the cost of educating their deaf children, through the State vocational rehabilitation agencies. It is the only place where the State pays for the higher education of deaf children. We feel they are willing to do this and that it is a good idea. We hope the increase will be added this year.

Senator COTTON. It does at the same time result in some increase to the students themselves?

ADMISSION NOT DENIED BECAUSE OF INABILITY TO PAY TUITION

Mr. ELSTAD. Yes; but we have always said and we say again that no student has ever been denied entrance because of inability to pay. If they cannot pay what would be our $1,200 charge this fall, they tell us so and we advise them to apply to the Vocational Rehabilitation Division for aid. Some States will pay the tuition and maintenance and for books and supplies, and others will not pay that much. If they cannot pay even what is left after that, we ask them to give us information to that effect and we provide additional scholarships. That is what the Federal support has meant, that no student ever be denied entrance because of lack of funds. If he has not one red cent and he can prove it, he can get a free education.

Senator HILL. No student has ever been denied because he could not pay the tuition?

Mr. ELSTAD. No student has ever been denied because he could not pay the tuition.

POSSIBLE ABUSE OF TUITION POLICY

Senator COTTON. I assume that information is not promulgated in advance. If it were, you would be flooded with applications and many would not admit that they could pay their way, at least in part, when actually they should.

Mr. ELSTAD. It is surprising how few feel this way about it. I was in Cincinnati recently and a father admitted he had had some difficulty and I was glad to tell him at that time that it would have been better if he had known earlier it was not necessary for him to go to great lengths to sacrifice for his child in college. We could have helped him had we known, but your point is well taken.

Senator COTTON. That is the point that bothers me. If it is the known fact to many of these people that the tuition is so much and they must pay so much, some of the most worthy cases might not even come to your attention because it might prevent their making application. To that extent, an increase in tuition is a deterrent of many people who are most honest and sincere and anxious to carry the burden. So it would seem to me that to avoid that injustice, you are placed between the horns of a dilemma.

If you give advance information that no one is turned away because of lack of funds, you might get many applications from those who could and should pay. If you do not give that information and there is an increase in tuition, you may deter some of the most independent and conscientious people.

FINANCIAL STATEMENTS

Mr. DETMOLD. We do send these people a financial statement to fill out. If you send a student to any college and apply for grants in aid, there are forms which are to be filled out and you can tell the family's financial situation from the forms.

Senator COTTON. But you cannot tell this until the applications are made.

Mr. DETMOLD. They are told that grants in aid are available. Senator COTTON. Many of the families of these prospective students are not too well educated or too well informed and they may not appreciate these facts fully or understand them. They are simply told there is a place where your son or daughter can be trained but the tuition is so much. I am just thinking about that.

Mr. DETMOLD. That may have happened, but we do not know of any case where it has happened. We know pretty well the sources from which our students come and the schools from which we draw them know pretty much what the Gallaudet procedures are and can advise their students well.

GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION OF STUDENT ENROLLMENT

Mr. ELSTAD. I have the list of students from each State and I will leave that with the committee so you will know who the students are from your State. A directory of students will give addresses. Senator HILL. We would appreciate it.

Thank you all, very, very much.

(The information follows:)

HOWARD UNIVERSITY, SALARIES AND EXPENSES

STATEMENT OF STANTON L. WORMLEY, ACTING PRESIDENT, HOWARD UNIVERSITY; ACCOMPANIED BY JAMES B. CLARKE, TREASURER; JULIAN A. COOK, COORDINATOR ON THE BUILDING PROGRAM; G. FREDERICK STANTON, SECRETARY; DOROTHY H. BAYEN, BUDGET DIRECTOR; JAMES H. ROBINSON, ASSISTANT TO THE ACADEMIC VICE PRESIDENT; L. A. ZIERNICKI, ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER FOR CONSTRUCTION, PUBLIC BUILDINGS SERVICE; AND JAMES B. CARDWELL, DEPARTMENT BUDGET OFFICER APPROPRIATION ESTIMATE

"HOWARD UNIVERSITY, SALARIES AND EXPENSES

"For the partial support of Howard University, including personal services, miscellaneous expenses, and repairs to buildings and grounds, [$10,982,000] $13,344,000."