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COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT

DAN BURTON, Indiana, Chairman BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York

HENRY A. WAXMAN, California J. DENNIS HASTERT, Illinois

TOM LANTOS, California CONSTANCE A. MORELLA, Maryland ROBERT E. WISE, JR., West Virginia CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut

MAJOR R. OWENS, New York CHRISTOPHER COX, California

EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida

PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania JOHN M. MCHUGH New York

GARY A. CONDIT, California STEPHEN HORN, California

CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York JOHN L. MICA, Florida

THOMAS M. BARRETT, Wisconsin THOMAS M. DAVIS, Virginia

ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, Washington, DAVID M. MCINTOSH, Indiana

DC MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana

CHAKA FATTAH, Pennsylvania JOE SCARBOROUGH, Florida

ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona

DENNIS J. KUCINICH, Ohio STEVEN C. LATOURETTE, Ohio

ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, Illinois MARSHALL “MARK” SANFORD, South DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois Carolina

JOHN F. TIERNEY, Massachusetts JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire

JIM TURNER, Texas PETE SESSIONS, Texas

THOMAS H. ALLEN, Maine
MICHAEL PAPPAS, New Jersey

HAROLD E. FORD, JR., Tennessee
VINCE SNOWBARGER, Kansas
BOB BARR, Georgia

BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont
DAN MILLER, Florida

(Independent) RON LEWIS, Kentucky

KEVIN BINGER, Staff Director

DANIEL R. MOLL, Deputy Staff Director
DAVID A. KASS, Deputy Counsel and Parliamentarian

LISA SMITH ARAFUNE, Deputy Chief Clerk
PHIL SCHILIRO, Minority Staff Director

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, AND CRIMINAL

JUSTICE

J. DENNIS HASTERT, Chairman MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana

THOMAS M. BARRETT, Wisconsin CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut

TOM LANTOS, California ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida

ROBERT E. WISE, JR., West Virginia JOHN M. MCHUGH, New York

GARY A. CONDIT, California JOHN L. MICA, Florida

ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, Illinois JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona

JIM TURNER, Texas STEVEN C. LATOURETTE, Ohio

ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland BOB BARR, Georgia

JOHN F. TIERNEY, Massachusetts

EX OFFICIO

DAN BURTON, Indiana

HENRY A. WAXMAN, California
ROBERT CHARLES, Staff Director and Chief Counsel
REW RICHARDSON, Professional Staff

AMY DAVENPORT, Clerk
MICHAEL YEAGER, Minority Counsel
DAVID RAPALLO, Minority Counsel

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CONTENTS

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Hearing held on October 2, 1998

Statement of:

Blitzer, Robert M., Section Chief, Domestic Terrorism/Counterterrorism

Planning Section, National Security Division, Federal Bureau of Inves-

tigation, Department of Justice, accompanied by Michael J. Dalich,

Chief of Staff, Office of Justice Programs, Department of Justice;

Charles L. Cragin, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense

for Reserve Affairs, Department of Defense; James Q. Roberts, Prin-

cipal Director for Policy and Missions, Office of the Assistant Secretary

of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, Depart-

ment of Defense; and Robert Knouss, Director, Office of Emergency

Preparedness, Department of Health and Human Services

Davis, Richard, Director, National Security Analysis, National Security

and International Affairs Division, U.S. General Accounting Office, ac-
companied by Davi D'Agostino, Assistant Director, National Security
Analysis, National Security and International Affairs Division, U.S.
General Accounting Office; Larry C. Johnson, Berg Associates, former
Deputy Director, Office of Counterterrorism, Department of State;
Frank J. Cilluffo, senior analyst, Center for Strategic and International
Studies; and Frederick H. Nesbitt, director of governmental affairs,

International Association of Fire Fighters
Letters, statements, etc., submitted for the record by:

Blitzer, Robert M., Section Chief, Domestic Terrorism/Counterterrorism

Planning Section, National Security Division, Federal Bureau of Inves-

tigation, Department of Justice, prepared statement of

Cilluffo, Frank J., senior analyst, Center for Strategic and International

Studies, prepared statement of

Cragin, Charles L.,

Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for

Reserve Affairs, Department of Defense and James Q. Roberts, Prin-

cipal Director for Policy and Missions, Office of the Assistant Secretary

of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, Depart-

ment of Defense, prepared statement of

Dalich, Michael J., Chief of Staff, Office of Justice Programs, Department

of Justice, prepared statement of
Davis, Richard, Director, National Security Analysis, National Security

and International Affairs Division, U.S. General Accounting Office, pre-

pared statement of

Hastert, Hon. Dennis J., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Illinois, prepared statement of
Johnson, Larry C., Berg Associates, former Deputy Director, Office of

Counterterrorism, Department of State, prepared statement of

Knouss, Robert, Director, Office of Emergency Preparedness, Department

of Health and Human Services, prepared statement of

Nesbitt, Frederick H., director of governmental affairs, International As-

sociation of Fire Fighters, prepared statement of

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